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holfresh
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5/31/2012  5:31 PM

Or the Heat but we neeeeeeeeeed him!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1199040/2/index.htm

I'll take this guy in a heatbeat...It clears up so many things for us...He would be great off the bench or even start...Depends on health and other issues...


I'll say hell yes!!!!
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5/31/2012  5:34 PM
IT BEGINS.

Everyone wants to come to the Knicks before Free Agency.

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5/31/2012  5:44 PM
I don't know, he'll be 37 next season and he's looked terrible during the playoffs. There's a very good chance he's washed up; we should only bring him in if he's willing to take the vet minimum.
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holfresh
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5/31/2012  5:45 PM
AnubisADL wrote:IT BEGINS.

Everyone wants to come to the Knicks before Free Agency.

Well everyone knows we have no money to pay him..So it would have to be the vet min...This may be authentic...Heat has zero space as well ...
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5/31/2012  6:08 PM
It'll take more than Jesus to fix the knicks.
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5/31/2012  8:05 PM
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5/31/2012  8:07 PM
Lala Bonilla coming with him?
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5/31/2012  8:08 PM
Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.
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5/31/2012  8:09 PM
Ray Allen is the man. We need him desperately.
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5/31/2012  8:31 PM
Can't we give him the bi-annual exception? That's at least a little more money.
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5/31/2012  10:12 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.

Forget Landry, I'd be excited to see what advice Ray could impart to Shump. They have similar forms and maybe Allen could help Shump develop more consistency.

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6/1/2012  7:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2012  7:13 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.

Forget Landry, I'd be excited to see what advice Ray could impart to Shump. They have similar forms and maybe Allen could help Shump develop more consistency.

Landry = a bag of peanuts and a small soda. His jumpshot got worse between seasons 1&2, still can't dribble or make good decisions. I still believe we could find a better replacement in the d-league for what he brings to the table. Lots of energy guys down there that are true 2guard. Landry fields is the 2nd coming of Shannon Anderson with less defense. Gethimoutofhere.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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6/1/2012  11:03 AM
Ray Allen would be an unbelievable good fit here even now as he is starting to break down.
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6/1/2012  11:07 AM
I would take Ray Allen over Landry Fields anyday, bone spurs old age and all.
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6/1/2012  11:19 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:I would take Ray Allen over Landry Fields anyday, bone spurs old age and all.

I would too, but I worry about the Knicks getting too old. The names I've heard thrown out lately are well past their prime.
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6/1/2012  11:25 AM
I said this in another thread!

Imgine having novak and allen running to the corners during a fastbreak?

Its like pick your poison
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6/1/2012  11:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2012  11:47 AM
unstopaball12 wrote:I said this in another thread!

Imgine having novak and allen running to the corners during a fastbreak?

Its like pick your poison

If Ray can stay healthy, it'd be a great pickup. Big IF, but if he can, it would do wonders for the offense and spacing, since it is the Knicks major weakness. 27.5% isn't going to get it done if we're going to step up to be elite:

3-point Field Goal Percentage Leaders
RK	TEAM		PTS	FGM	FGA	FG%	3PM	3PA	3P%	FTM	FTA	FT%	PPS	AFG%
1	San Antonio	104.1	38.9	78.8	.494	9.0	21.8	.413	17.3	24.0	.721	1.32	.551
2	LA Clippers	90.9	34.5	75.3	.458	6.2	16.4	.378	15.8	23.7	.667	1.21	.499
3	Dallas		93.3	31.5	78.0	.404	8.0	21.5	.372	22.3	26.8	.832	1.20	.455
4	Oklahoma City	100.8	36.5	79.9	.456	6.8	18.5	.368	21.1	25.3	.835	1.26	.499
5	Chicago		84.3	34.0	80.7	.421	4.3	12.7	.342	12.0	18.5	.649	1.05	.448
6	Orlando		83.8	31.0	77.8	.398	8.4	24.6	.341	13.4	19.0	.705	1.08	.452
7	Miami		96.8	34.5	75.4	.458	6.2	19.2	.324	21.5	29.5	.728	1.28	.499
8	Indiana		90.9	33.7	79.5	.424	5.7	17.9	.320	17.7	23.0	.771	1.14	.461
9	Atlanta		82.2	31.8	79.3	.401	5.8	18.8	.310	12.7	16.2	.784	1.04	.438
10	LA Lakers	94.0	35.2	83.2	.423	5.3	17.3	.304	18.4	23.7	.778	1.13	.454
11 	Philadelphia	85.7	32.1	78.1	.411	4.0	13.2	.304	17.5	24.4	.719	1.10	.436
12	Memphis		91.4	32.6	76.3	.427	3.4	11.9	.289	22.9	30.7	.744	1.20	.449
13	Boston		89.0	33.5	76.7	.437	4.4	15.6	.282	17.5	21.6	.812	1.16	.466
14	Denver		96.7	38.4	89.3	.430	5.3	19.0	.278	14.6	20.3	.718	1.08	.460
15	New York	82.8	30.6	73.4	.417	5.0	18.2	.275	16.6	21.8	.761	1.13	.451
16	Utah		86.3	32.8	85.8	.382	2.3	11.3	.200	18.5	26.3	.705	1.01	.395

Also, a healthy Ray Allen can still run circles around the court, would be a return to the motion and screen offense we've missed since Allan Houston been retired, something Novak isn't skilled or quick enough to do.
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6/1/2012  11:48 AM
Alls well and good until Ray tears an acl or achilles or his back and is done in year 1 of his contract
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6/1/2012  11:55 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Alls well and good until Ray tears an acl or achilles or his back and is done in year 1 of his contract

That's my only fear as well. With our luck, Bdiddy and Bibby, it'll happen that way.
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6/1/2012  12:28 PM
If (and that's a big if- every FA uses us to get a bigger contract somewhere else) it came down to us and the Heat, I fancy our chances more, simply because we could offer him a starting spot, and the heat can't. He seemed really p'd off and disrespected when he got moved to the bench with the Celtics.

But then again, I look at the Heats awful roster, and I don't want us to make the same mistake of filling out our roster with vets who are past it and in decline- none of them have really contributed anything to the Heat. Even with the Celtics, over the past few years they've got nothing from the over-the hill players they've signed (Jermaine O'Neal, Shaq), but seem to have gotten a lot more from young players they took a chance on (Rondo, Perkins, Avery Bradley etc).

So I'd say take a chance on one vet (be it Ray Allen, Nash, Grant Hill), but don't sign too many of them- take a chance on some players with upside (and yes, that includes Landry Fields!), because the new cba is going to lock us down for the next 3 years after this summer.
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