This post is ludicrous! What genuine fan would say this? Unreal! If Chaney and Layden were still running this team, Playa, you would be doing handstands telling everyone how they are on the way up ready to make a run in the playoffs.

I admit they have had a bad stretch and it is possible they may miss the playoffs. That being said, I have more faith in this team for next year now than ever. This group together for a year will win 50 games next year. Write that down.

I agree with TKF, in 3 years the frontcourt of Sweetney and Nazr will be one of the better ones in the East. The Cavs will be good for the next 15 yeras, but we all knew that once the Cavs got LeBron in June.

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Posted by tkf:

Bobby the problem with your post is that you didn't address the other side of your questions..

you say everyone else will be getting better, then you mentioned cleveland with James and Boozer, well that is good but what about the rest of their team? they still don't have a legit PG, Big Z will be gone in 2 years, cleveland is trying hard to rid themselvles of his contract before he breaks his foot again, and the Heat? come on man, skiP? LOl at best he is a career backup PG, odom will put up nice numbers but so what. I do like dewayne Wade but as far as butler and Eddie jones go, they are scaring no one!!! I will take Marbury, TT, Nazr, Houston, a developing sweetney and Frank williams, I think the knicks are in as good a shape as any of the teams you mentioned. You guys knock NY but yet have mentioned teams that will be significantly better if better at all.. Ny is a place where people want to play again, I would not put it past zeke to land another prize player via trade and really round out this team...
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Now after experiencing the hand of Zeke this yr making more moves than a pimp at a beauty contest, how can you be sure who's gonna be here next yr or 2yrs from now? See your point about team chemistry is thrown out the window you will never know who will be playing as long as zeke is here. Did't you know Zekes past record, dude last about 3 seasons ANYWHERE he goes before he gets ta stepping somewhere else. Check out his track record. All he did was bring back wonder boy (marbury)to sell tickest and make our knicks watchable. What was our record last yr compared to this yr after 63 games ? I refuse to get my feelings hurt knowing with all these moves, this team is only more exciting to watch which is a plus for fans and DoLANS pocketbook, but when it comes to the playoffs.....

Playa,

Whats your point? Of course this team is all about the here and now. Its about the immeadiate buzz and selling tix.

And Isiah has done a good job. But give him a chance and don't indict him just on past record. He might screw up in different more creative ways, or learned from the past and improve on it.

Blame if any go's to Dolan and the Knick Philosophy, which has not changed in 27 years. But either accept it or look elsewhere for your jollys. Dolan prefers profits and hope than substancial quality of a team. In this day of free agents, its not easy to put a great team together, but not all that hard to stay in the playoffs and keep attendence up. Isiah is an instrument to do this, and the polar opposite of Laydog. We still don't know what Laydog was up to, but whats done is done.

While I prefer a long and deep painful rebuild, it ain't gonna happen here. Its dolan's dime, and he has choosen a differnt path, but one with some youth on it.

No need trying to convert or rain on everyones parade, either accept what you can't control and enjoy the team and the league. Being a fan has many faces, but a sad one is not enjoyable.

Posted by tkf:

playa again you are being foolish, are you going to compare this years
record with last years record, yet you fail to realize that layden and chaney were still in charge the first what, 20 games of the season? and that we didn't have this same team for the whole year.. stop with the stupidity player, and your point about not knowing who is going to be here 2 years from now is stupid, with zeke, at least I can rest assure that it won't be some fat, overpaid, over the hill, unathletic former layden lap dog.....

My point is TKF we should have a better record than last yr by now with all these new players we have. Fact of the matter is you really don't know who's gonna be here next yr so stop talking like you do. If any can make their points without bringing up the old regime I will applaud you, yalking about guys who aren't here is a waste of space.

Couple things:

1. Zeke gave up way to much for Marbury

2. Nazr and TT are average players. Don't overrate them.

3. Knicks still don't play good enough Defense.

4. You don't sign a Medicore Jump shooting PF. To a 4 year 30 million deal and think "hey he's trade bait" Teams want guys with 1-2 year left on contract.

5. Teams will stop dealing with Zeke and his Attitude.

Posted by MX25:

Couple things:

1. Zeke gave up way to much for Marbury
2. Nazr and TT are average players. Don't overrate them.
3. Knicks still don't play good enough Defense.
4. You don't sign a Medicore Jump shooting PF. To a 4 year 30 million deal and think "hey he's trade bait" Teams want guys with 1-2 year left on contract.
5. Teams will stop dealing with Zeke and his Attitude.

Is this David Faulk posting?

1. I'd like to know the break point for this trade. Which piece pushed it to the brink for you? I'd give a lot up for an all-star PG, and most other GMs aroud the league area with that thinking.
2. What's your point?
3. Agreed, but that's a team chemistry thing. It'll tighten up soon enough, and if not this year then next year certainly.
4. Teams want guys who can play and trade for players who fill a role. Dallas would LOVE a guy like Kurt. Good low post defender, can hit the 15 footer consistently.
5. Puff, puff PASS man.

Core let the last week in a half speak for themselves, we have to step up to another level before you and your band on "MERRY MEN" get all giddy.

Mods need to fess up, hardcore needs to fess up, tkf, gony need to fess up, all you who hate playa need to fess up. Simmy is the only one who debated me and fessed up. Marbury is good but not for this team , Lenny was good but like Vince Carter said... the game done past him by.I said Nazr can't handle pressure playing for knicks, He's use to losing in ATL. I told you KT GOT PAID SO HE WON'T PLAY HARD ANYMORE.