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Caseloads
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5/30/2012  4:50 PM
D12 (and filler) to OKC for perkins, ibaka and the beard (james harden) and filler

OKC gets a top 5 player in the league and Orlando rebuilds with both forward spots and a center.

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5/30/2012  4:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/30/2012  4:57 PM
Trade isnt going to happen. Westbrook would never pass him the ball.
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5/31/2012  11:52 PM
I'd rather have the OKC players than D12 in that scenario
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6/1/2012  8:01 AM
knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather have the OKC players than D12 in that scenario

So would I.
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6/1/2012  8:05 AM
Anyone ask dwight if he'd resign in OKC?
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6/1/2012  11:16 AM
If they trade for anyone it should be someone who is going to make Durant the focal point of the offense like another PG, a better floor general. Include a big in the deal as well, but not someone who is going to cut down on Durant's touches like Howard would.
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6/1/2012  11:21 AM
That trade was already consider and the thunder turned it down.
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6/1/2012  11:29 AM
I personally feel OKC trading Westbrook to the Brooklyn Nets for D.Williams would be a better deal for both clubs.

OKC can then turn around and resign Harden.

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6/1/2012  12:37 PM
knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather have the OKC players than D12 in that scenario

agreed, in fact, even if Orlando threw in Ryan Anderson, it would make more sense.
Durant and Ibaka, are great together, they cover so much ground with their length, speed/quickness, athleticism, and versatility.

OKC will have a tough decision though, they already have 2 players making max, not many markets can afford to pay 4 near max players, along with Perkins.
3 players at max contract is dobable, especially, if they get rid with Perkins contract.
Unless they trade Westbrook, cause Durant isn't going anywhere, I don't think OKC can afford to keep that core together with Perkins salary.
Nick Collison is the greatest steal, signed a multiyear deal at under 2m per year.
I think Tyson Chandler would make much sense for OKC, for a deal for Perkins and Hardens, maybe with Novak or/and Jorts, Fields.
They need a player, that sets great screens, plays tough defense, while not making a max contract, and would make them a great defensive team.
He would fit right in, while being a huge upgrade vs Perkins.
For New York, we desperately need an upgrade at SG, with the ability to handle the ball, and have the ability to penetrate.
They have 1 more year to decide before Harden and Ibaka will be seeking a huge contract as RFAs.
A core of

Westbrook
Sefalosha
Durant
Ibaka
Tyson Chandler

Would be the best defensive team for a starting lineup, while they still have the abilities to add 1 maybe 2 MLE contracts this summer and next.
They can add the best available PGs at the right price for them, with players like Kidd or Nash.
Kidd would demand much less, while, having the ability to add another MLE the next year, if they do so.

OKC needs to learn to utilize all their players, with ball movement, and movement off the ball.
They rely on 1v1 abilities too often, while not moving the ball
Kidd can mentor Westbrook, while bringing a different dimension to their games.
He can still defend the SG position, spread the floor with his 3point shot, and is a great passer.
Especially for the alley hoops for Durant, Ibaka, Chandler, Westbrook, and even to a less extent of Sefalosha and Nick Collison.

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6/1/2012  12:43 PM
Caseloads wrote:D12 (and filler) to OKC for perkins, ibaka and the beard (james harden) and filler

OKC gets a top 5 player in the league and Orlando rebuilds with both forward spots and a center.

Really teams should wait and see how he looks after having surgery to repair his back- I hear it is quite important for playing basketball.

DH is a huge risk at this point, especially if he insists on an extension prior to playing. His game is based on his athleticsm- if that goes, he's no franchise centre. He'd still be a servicable defensive big man, maybe a 10 10 guy though.

Then factor in what he's going to be like mentally- he was humiliated this season and exposed as a liar- he seems to be very bothered about how he's seen by others, so I wonder the impact that will have. Plus he can't practice much this offseason while he recovers, so he'll probably be out o shape and rusty next season.

He doesn't seem to be bothered about winning (rejecting the Lakers trade), so I wonder what his motives are- dos he just want to be liked and play in a happy place? I don't know, he doesn't have a championship mentality- he is the Tracy McGrady/Vince Carter of centres.

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6/1/2012  12:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2012  1:07 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:I personally feel OKC trading Westbrook to the Brooklyn Nets for D.Williams would be a better deal for both clubs.

OKC can then turn around and resign Harden.

IF Deron makes max, its doesn't solve any of their financial problems long term, with

Durant
Deron

both making max and Ibaka, Harden, will be seeking max offers or within that area from OKC or another team.
They should be seeking a contract at minimum starting at 12m per year.


and Perkins still makes about 7-8m, 9.2m in his final year.

So I agree the trade would make them better, with a player closer to a true PG, but financially they will be one looking at 80+ mill, while being in a small market team.

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6/1/2012  6:15 PM
RonRon wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:I personally feel OKC trading Westbrook to the Brooklyn Nets for D.Williams would be a better deal for both clubs.

OKC can then turn around and resign Harden.

IF Deron makes max, its doesn't solve any of their financial problems long term, with

Durant
Deron

both making max and Ibaka, Harden, will be seeking max offers or within that area from OKC or another team.
They should be seeking a contract at minimum starting at 12m per year.


and Perkins still makes about 7-8m, 9.2m in his final year.

So I agree the trade would make them better, with a player closer to a true PG, but financially they will be one looking at 80+ mill, while being in a small market team.

I suggested D.Williams because I personally do not consider him a "Max money" player but if he was to get that kind of money, OKC are in need of a better playmaker..something Westbrook isn't, so swapping the two shouldnt be a big deal.
In Brooklyn, Westbrook can be "The Man", something, it seems like, he wants to be.

From ESPN INsider:

Dwight Howard trade options

How much is Dwight Howard worth?

We might find out soon enough if he's traded. I know what you're thinking: "Haven't we heard that for the past two years?" While that might be true, it seems more likely than ever that he'll be dealt. The Orlando Magic front office has cleaned house by handing pink slips to general manager Otis Smith and head coach Stan Van Gundy, and there's a lot of uncertainty in the organization. And another season of Howard's hokey-pokey commitment might be too much to swallow.

We know Howard's credentials. He's probably one of the five best players in the NBA who also just happens to be entering his prime years as a basketball commodity. When engaged (and he might not have been all last season), he's easily the best defensive big man in the league, patrolling the pick-and-roll game, protecting the rim and gobbling up every miss in sight.

So you're getting a perennial defensive player of the year candidate who also happens to average 20 points per game. Here's a list of centers who can offer you that combination: Dwight Howard. That's it. As long as he's happy (which seems to be of utmost importance to his employer), he could be one of the two or three most valuable assets in the league.

So who would be interested? Just about everybody. Who would actually have the pieces to make it work? Here are four destinations that make sense.

Los Angeles Lakers
The deal: Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol to Orlando for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Glen Davis

Here we have two desperate franchises with the contention clock ticking away. The window on Kobe Bryant being an elite player is closing soon, and the Lakers front office might feel the need to blow it up after two straight seasons of embarrassing exits in the playoffs. Going a combined 1-8 in the Western Conference semifinals these past two seasons just won't cut it.

Why would the Lakers give up both Bynum and Gasol? Because we might be headed for the most competitive bidding war in recent history, and they might not have any choice. The Carmelo Anthony sweepstakes would pale in comparison, considering the fact that Howard actually plays on two ends of the floor. There will be several teams in the hunt for Howard if he becomes available and the Lakers could have the most short-term and long-term talent to offer. The question is, does Howard want to play with Kobe?

Los Angeles Clippers
The deal: Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes and Eric Bledsoe to Orlando for Dwight Howard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick.
Now, this would be the real Lob City. And this would also infuriate their co-habitants of Staples Center, the Los Angeles Lakers. If Clippers decision-maker Neil Olshey could somehow turn Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon into Chris Paul and Dwight Howard, the executive of the year trophy should just be a bronze mini-sculpture of Olshey grinning on the phone.

It would also be quite a haul for the Magic. They get one of the top young big men in the league in Griffin, their point guard of the future in Bledsoe and some veteran pieces to fill out a playoff roster. Of course, this creates a glut at point guard, which could have been alleviated by the Magic using the amnesty provision on Jameer Nelson, but that already pushed that button on Gilbert Arenas.

Dallas Mavericks
The deal: Brook Lopez (signed), Shawn Marion, Rodrigue Beaubois, 2012 first-round pick, 2014 first for Howard and Davis
This is a tough one if Dallas doesn't want to part with Dirk Nowitzki. The Mavericks have always been tossed around as a possible destination for Howard, but unless they land a star free agent in a sign-and-trade, it's hard to see a possible deal. They have the cap space to land a big fish like Deron Williams, but in order to come up with enough assets to entice a deal, the Magic would want a star in return. Beaubois is promising, but a franchise player he is not. Lopez, if the Nets somehow don't match the offer, could be that guy to some.

The Mavericks could sign and deal a veteran like Kevin Garnett or Steve Nash, but it's unlikely that the Magic would want anything to do with players whose skills have an imminent expiration date. If this free-agent crop was as stacked as the summer of 2010, then the Mavericks could make a lot of sense. Right now, they just have to get super creative.

Houston Rockets
The deal: Kyle Lowry, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Chandler Parsons, 2012 first-round pick (from Knicks) for Howard and Turkoglu
Houston GM Daryl Morey might have lost some leverage when Lowry publically voiced his displeasure with coach Kevin McHale, but it makes it even more likely that he and not Goran Dragic will be the odd one out come next fall. Make no mistake about it: A healthy Lowry will be one of the top point guards in the league next season for his efforts on both ends of the floor. He might not be a household name, but he's the type of player GMs would covet, especially as he enters his prime.

Also working in the Rockets' favor is that they can take on Turkoglu's salary if they throw Scola and Martin (an expiring contract in 2012-13) into the deal. Rookie Parsons is already a league-average player, coming on hard in the second half of the season. It might not be Bledsoe, but Parsons is an NBA player. This haul would keep the Magic in the playoffs, while giving some long-term flexibility once Martin's contract comes off the books.

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6/1/2012  10:59 PM
I like the Thunder's balance. Harden is a fine player. But when it comes pay day can they actually afford all of them? If they could I'd stick with their group even though Howard is great. If you cant, then you gotta look to make a move and get something for the guys you're gonna lose.
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6/2/2012  9:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2012  9:26 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:

From ESPN INsider:

Dwight Howard trade options

Los Angeles Lakers
The deal: Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol to Orlando for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Glen Davis

Los Angeles Clippers
The deal: Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes and Eric Bledsoe to Orlando for Dwight Howard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick.

Dallas Mavericks
The deal: Brook Lopez (signed), Shawn Marion, Rodrigue Beaubois, 2012 first-round pick, 2014 first for Howard and Davis

Houston Rockets
The deal: Kyle Lowry, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Chandler Parsons, 2012 first-round pick (from Knicks) for Howard and Turkoglu

The Lakers and the Rockets deals are very realistic.

I don't think the clippers wanna trade half their and that's really half a team not the "they started for us" bench players we traded for Melo. Hell that starting five could probably fight for a playoff spot in the East next season.

And I don't think the Mavs can be signing and trading other teams RFA's. That's the worst trade of them all. Why would the Nets Let one of their few assets get signed and traded for Howard???

Do the Lakers love Bynum??? Do the Clippers wanna move Blake??? Does Howard want to play in Houston???

I Hope the answers are all no. The Knicks may not have the best deal, but we can take every piece of **** salary on their roster.

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