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Do we have JJ's early bird rights?
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RonRon
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5/20/2012  2:39 PM
Jarred Jeffries, I feel he deserves a raise, but we unfortunately, cannot afford to use any part of the exemptions for his services.
But was wondering if we actually have his early bird rights and will we have his new bird rights if he signs another 1 year veteran minimum this summer?

With 2 JJ's already on our roster, I would love to trade Amare for the far superior JJ we have ever had on a roster, Joe Johnson!!!

If OKC loses, I wonder if they would consider trading Perkins to go with

Harden

or

Westbrook

for Dwight Howard????

Would they have interest doing so for DPOY, Tyson Chandler!

With Durant and Westbrook making max $$$$ already.

Harden, will be looking for a max deal in 2 years, with OKC, or with another team, which OKC will be forced to match or not.
Ibaka, as the leagues leading shot blocker, will be getting close to max as well, as one of the leagues most athletic/long big man.

I think they have to just might have to choose between Westbrook or Harden, if that scenario comes up in 2 years.

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Nalod
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5/20/2012  10:32 PM
Gotta ask Dwight if he want to play in OKC.

BUt if he wants a ring its a hell of an idea!

gunsnewing
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5/20/2012  10:43 PM
Teams are just salivating to steal Jared Jeffries from the Knicks
RonRon
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5/21/2012  4:15 AM
i just want to know if you sign 2 year of veteran minimum deals, if we have JJ's early bird rights.
If we sign him 3 years, do we get his full bird rights, not that we would give him a huge raise, but I think he deserves more than the vet minimum, if he stays healthy.
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5/21/2012  8:16 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Teams are just salivating to steal Jared Jeffries from the Knicks

U joke but Jeffries is well worth the vet min. I think JJ likes it here and will resign

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5/21/2012  12:18 PM
Guy is a minimum player. He has one good skill, but he's remarkably deficient in every other aspect of the game. Also he's only capable of playing about 1/3 of a season.
Panos
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5/21/2012  2:42 PM
We should give him a 5 year full MLE.
RonRon
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5/21/2012  5:10 PM
Panos wrote:We should give him a 5 year full MLE.

i just feel he deserves a 3 year extension rather than the 1year vet minimum for JJ's security purposes.
It would still be in the range of the veteran minimum salary, but feel he deserves it.
I wanted to know if we have his early bird rights or bird rights, if we sign 2-3 years to players for the veteran minimum.

He was a crucial part of Linsanity with his defense, ball movement, setting screens, and even scoring with shots and penetration.
I applaud his effort and for him wanting to come back, the way the fans booed him out.
He easily could have been a Jerome James, but he came back this year, with some added skill, unfortunately he played hurt and wasn't as productive towards the end of the season.
He is still a nice rotation player to have that already has chemistry with the team...

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5/21/2012  5:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2012  5:29 PM
we have a history of mistreating our players, an image that we should get rid off.
By rewarding a player that has been loyal to us, could be the difference, and it will be a step towards rebuilding that relationship.
Show some appreciating for a player that had to deal with the boos, "fans and media bashing *especially the hot youtube girl*", to come back, and continue to improve and fit in.

With our yoots, future rookies, and FA's signings, it could be the difference.

For example, if Jorts or Jordan, or even JR Smith, and Iman in the future, come back strong and have a great year, while we need to acquire more talent, we might not be able to pay these guys in the year that we want to.

we can possibly "take care" of their futures if they take a lesser deal to stay and play for us.

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5/21/2012  6:02 PM
Panos wrote:We should give him a 5 year full MLE.

Cosign and throw in a karaoke machine so him and Fields have something to do throughout the year while sitting at the end of the bench

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5/21/2012  10:29 PM
The biggest issue with JJ is his injury history - no, not his history - his chronic injuries.

In the words of Kobe Bryant:
"I learned from my predecessors," Bryant said. "[Scottie] Pippen had a [messed] up back taking charges. [Larry] Bird had a [messed] up back taking charges. I said, 'I'm not taking charges.' I figured that ... out at an early age."

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RonRon
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5/21/2012  11:03 PM
technomaster wrote:The biggest issue with JJ is his injury history - no, not his history - his chronic injuries.

In the words of Kobe Bryant:
"I learned from my predecessors," Bryant said. "[Scottie] Pippen had a [messed] up back taking charges. [Larry] Bird had a [messed] up back taking charges. I said, 'I'm not taking charges.' I figured that ... out at an early age."

at least the charges aren't versus the old school style of basketball.
When you took a charge back in the day, they sure made you pay for it.
Think about a flying knee from Karl Malone going full speed at you.
He might have been very tall, athletic, and outstanding reach like some of these new breeds of PFs,

but he sure was a strong, heavy, and wide man. Those knees were used to protect himself and make opponents think twice about taking a charge.
back to Jarred Jeffries, he is a player that is about heart versus talent.
He sacrifice his body, works hard, sets great screens to get his team mates open, moves the basketball, plays good TEAM defense, and always gives it 100%, working for WIN

NOT for stats, a future contract, or for money, all for the love of the game.

I think its nice to have player like this especially if we ever remain serious about developing YOOTs.
Whether he plays or not, produces or not, he will always be cheering on his team mates, and his loyalty to the Knicks should be rewarded.

I know we are on a limited budget this year and probably won't be able to reward him more than another 1 year veteran minimum.
BUT, I would like to give him a raise if we have his bird rights next year, for 2-3 years of security, without digging in to our exemptions and losing the ability to add talent.
Also, when Iman fouled Dwayne Wade during the season, not wanting to give him an easy basket, Wade got in his face with a "I am a ALL STAR, you better back down ROOK"
Jared Jeffries was the first to back Iman up, as he was trying to go for the basketball, and wasn't a dirty play by any means.
I have hated Jeffries in the past in previous years, but last year, I finally, gave him much respect for the little things he has done as our back up center.

I think he isn't very talented, but he was part of that Linsanity run, and reminds young players that hard work, stats, and doing the little stuff are just as important for a W.
He developed his lack of offensive game last summer, with a much improved shot, improved his ability to penetrate, and FINISH, since last year's horrible layup vs the Celtics.

While Melo, is totally the opposite, but that is another story.....

RonRon
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5/21/2012  11:10 PM
I think a team like OKC, would fit well for Jeffries, playing limited minutes with Nazr's role.
The team is all long and athletic already, many are his size.

They all have the ability to score already, while Jeffries might not get the steal, block, or even rebound at time, he will tap it out much like what Tyson Chandler does, he does a lot of little stuff and intangibles, that will lead to his team mates getting those stats.

Jeffries would excel with his team defense, ability to set screens, willingness to move the basketball (something OKC lacks), and quick feet for a "big man".

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5/22/2012  8:07 AM
RonRon wrote:I think a team like OKC, would fit well for Jeffries, playing limited minutes with Nazr's role.
The team is all long and athletic already, many are his size.

They all have the ability to score already, while Jeffries might not get the steal, block, or even rebound at time, he will tap it out much like what Tyson Chandler does, he does a lot of little stuff and intangibles, that will lead to his team mates getting those stats.

Jeffries would excel with his team defense, ability to set screens, willingness to move the basketball (something OKC lacks), and quick feet for a "big man".


I actually Think the Lakers would benefit if they have jeffries! There pick and roll defense is just bad.

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5/22/2012  10:52 AM
RonRon wrote:but he sure was a strong, heavy, and wide man. Those knees were used to protect himself and make opponents think twice about taking a charge.
back to Jarred Jeffries, he is a player that is about heart versus talent.
He sacrifice his body, works hard, sets great screens to get his team mates open, moves the basketball, plays good TEAM defense, and always gives it 100%, working for WIN

NOT for stats, a future contract, or for money, all for the love of the game.

...for his job. If he didn't play good team defense and take a charge, he wouldn't qualify to play in the NBA.

Do we have JJ's early bird rights?

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