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holfresh
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5/18/2012  5:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2012  5:58 PM
I think a key aspect of veteran teams making a run and often their revival is the injection of youthful players on these teams...Boston got a boost a few years back from Rondo and this year from Avery Bradley...Lakers were playing well with Hill and Ebanks making a contribution when Metta was out...SA had Blair and George Hill the last couple of years and now Leonard and Green making a contribution...Seems like teams with good vets can be lethargic and a little complacent, they need that youthful energy to remind them why there are their in the first place...Another sport, Yankees added Cano to the mix a few years back that helped their last Championship run....We have Shump and Lin who can give us a shot in the arm as well...I think its hard to start both guys as they are rooks and second year players if we are serious about contending...We do however have to incorporate them into the offense in a significant way to improve this ball club...If JR doesn't return I can see Lin being that guy off the bench first if we get a solid vet PG to run the club....Bring on the yoots and lets make a run!!!!
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5/18/2012  9:25 PM
LIn off the bench?

Who is the Starting PG?
holfresh
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5/18/2012  9:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2012  9:46 PM
Nalod wrote:LIn off the bench?

Who is the Starting PG?

If holfresh is the GM and gets his way, I'm bringing Ray Felton in on the MLE and have him start...I'll ask Felton to lose 20/25 lbs by start by of training camp...If Lin beats him out, better...Lin is the future but I think it's tough asking a young PG like Lin to lead us to a Championship...6 TO/per is a bit much in the playoffs...Lin is more of a score first PG... He took more shots per game than Amare when they played together...I think success will depend on Amare and Melo being the two go to guys on offense at the same time...Lin could be the change of pace off the bench...But that's just me...
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5/18/2012  10:56 PM
Im not gonna ask Felton to lose 25 lbs nor ask him him to lead us to a championship.

I'd rather take some imagination and work with lin to get him ready.

MDA is gone and Felton won't be in the SSOL system.

IN Woody's "world", Lin won't have the ball as much nor penetrate as he did.

Woody's scheme will be different. He did not have time to implement. Maybe he uses a modified MDA ball but lets see.

I'd rather we get the players to fit the system than the coach try to adapt. If not, then get another coach NOW.
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5/18/2012  11:10 PM
holfresh wrote:
Nalod wrote:LIn off the bench?

Who is the Starting PG?

If holfresh is the GM and gets his way, I'm bringing Ray Felton in on the MLE and have him start...I'll ask Felton to lose 20/25 lbs by start by of training camp...If Lin beats him out, better...Lin is the future but I think it's tough asking a young PG like Lin to lead us to a Championship...6 TO/per is a bit much in the playoffs...Lin is more of a score first PG... He took more shots per game than Amare when they played together...I think success will depend on Amare and Melo being the two go to guys on offense at the same time...Lin could be the change of pace off the bench...But that's just me...

If you believe Raymond Felton is NBA starter PG regular season or playoff caliber guard to lead the Knicks,
I don't know NBA hoops anymore

Raymond Felton ? to start?

This isnt a MDA flashback-rewind

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5/19/2012  2:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/19/2012  2:46 AM
Well we could say the same for Lin excelling in MDA system or as a playoff caliber player after the Miami game or many others where the opposing PG had career nights against him...It's really tough for me to give a guy 5 mil per off of 8 games under MDA...In which there were many bad shooting nights during that stretch...Lin's durability is an issue, we aren't sure if he could withstand the rigors of an 82 game season...We really can't go into the season with another 40 year PG to back up Lin...The back up has to be capable of running the point for an extended period of time...A Baron Davis or Bibby type won't cut it again...We have a small window, I really can't say Lin is ready...I say Felton because he is durable and is the last guy to bring the best out of Amare...We need Amare to be Amare, Felton gets that and has done the job just last year...I would say Nash but I think he is a pipe dream...The thing is, If Lin can handle the load and excels, a Felton contract at 5 mil per is very tradable...We just need the insurance after last year's PG debacle...

One more thing...Essentially a rook and a second year player as your backcourt is difficult to ask to make a run...
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5/19/2012  10:27 AM
Yeah just lose 25 pounds in 2 months and lead us to a championship.....that is all
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5/19/2012  11:04 AM
EnySpree wrote:Yeah just lose 25 pounds in 2 months and lead us to a championship.....that is all

You CAN ask I suppose?
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5/19/2012  12:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/19/2012  1:20 PM
Or just cut your TO to 2 per , play better defense, cut down your FG attemps and involve Amare, have to pass to Melo, he is the number 1 option in the offense, slow down opposing PG from setting record numbers like Romdo getting tripple double close 20 in wach catergory which I have never seen in 40 years of watching the NBA, don't play like a rookie, don't be intimidated by Miami and Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole, learn to go left, don't go 1 for 13 in a half and lead us to a Championship..
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5/19/2012  2:34 PM
Or we can blame StarMelo...
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5/19/2012  2:56 PM
holfresh wrote:I think a key aspect of veteran teams making a run and often their revival is the injection of youthful players on these teams...Boston got a boost a few years back from Rondo and this year from Avery Bradley...Lakers were playing well with Hill and Ebanks making a contribution when Metta was out...SA had Blair and George Hill the last couple of years and now Leonard and Green making a contribution...Seems like teams with good vets can be lethargic and a little complacent, they need that youthful energy to remind them why there are their in the first place...Another sport, Yankees added Cano to the mix a few years back that helped their last Championship run....We have Shump and Lin who can give us a shot in the arm as well...I think its hard to start both guys as they are rooks and second year players if we are serious about contending...We do however have to incorporate them into the offense in a significant way to improve this ball club...If JR doesn't return I can see Lin being that guy off the bench first if we get a solid vet PG to run the club....Bring on the yoots and lets make a run!!!!

It's not hard to start rookies. Danny Green is basically a rookie. Blair, Splitter, Neal are all second year players. These types of players can be found in the 2nd round and can start or contribute in their first season.
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5/19/2012  2:58 PM
Knixkik wrote:
holfresh wrote:I think a key aspect of veteran teams making a run and often their revival is the injection of youthful players on these teams...Boston got a boost a few years back from Rondo and this year from Avery Bradley...Lakers were playing well with Hill and Ebanks making a contribution when Metta was out...SA had Blair and George Hill the last couple of years and now Leonard and Green making a contribution...Seems like teams with good vets can be lethargic and a little complacent, they need that youthful energy to remind them why there are their in the first place...Another sport, Yankees added Cano to the mix a few years back that helped their last Championship run....We have Shump and Lin who can give us a shot in the arm as well...I think its hard to start both guys as they are rooks and second year players if we are serious about contending...We do however have to incorporate them into the offense in a significant way to improve this ball club...If JR doesn't return I can see Lin being that guy off the bench first if we get a solid vet PG to run the club....Bring on the yoots and lets make a run!!!!

It's not hard to start rookies. Danny Green is basically a rookie. Blair, Splitter, Neal are all second year players. These types of players can be found in the 2nd round and can start or contribute in their first season.

Danny Green is a third year player. He is just cheap.

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5/19/2012  4:11 PM
Knixkik wrote:
holfresh wrote:I think a key aspect of veteran teams making a run and often their revival is the injection of youthful players on these teams...Boston got a boost a few years back from Rondo and this year from Avery Bradley...Lakers were playing well with Hill and Ebanks making a contribution when Metta was out...SA had Blair and George Hill the last couple of years and now Leonard and Green making a contribution...Seems like teams with good vets can be lethargic and a little complacent, they need that youthful energy to remind them why there are their in the first place...Another sport, Yankees added Cano to the mix a few years back that helped their last Championship run....We have Shump and Lin who can give us a shot in the arm as well...I think its hard to start both guys as they are rooks and second year players if we are serious about contending...We do however have to incorporate them into the offense in a significant way to improve this ball club...If JR doesn't return I can see Lin being that guy off the bench first if we get a solid vet PG to run the club....Bring on the yoots and lets make a run!!!!

It's not hard to start rookies. Danny Green is basically a rookie. Blair, Splitter, Neal are all second year players. These types of players can be found in the 2nd round and can start or contribute in their first season.

How many teams in the playoffs now have a rookie PG?
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5/21/2012  12:24 PM
holfresh wrote:Or we can blame StarMelo...

Always the safe bet. Unless he's injured, then it's blame Statphucque.
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