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Grunwald 6th in Executive of the Year voting
By Jared Zwerling

Knicks' executive vice president and general manager Glen Grunwald finished sixth in Executive of the Year voting, announced on Wednesday by the NBA.

Pacers' president of basketball operations Larry Bird was named the winner. Rounding out the top six were San Antonio's R.C. Buford, LA Clippers' Neil Olshey, Chicago's Gar Forman, Utah's Kevin O'Connor and Grunwald.

Grunwald started the season as the interim general manager, but based on his success signing Tyson Chandler, Steve Novak, Jeremy Lin and J.R. Smith (in that order), he earned his full-time job status in late April. And that's why sixth place will come at a surprise to many.

Grunwald's biggest challenges lie ahead. He has to figure out with the little wiggle room he has, salary-cap wise, how to re-sign Lin and other key role players to balance out the bench. Ironically, three of the guys he signed this season -- Lin, Novak and Smith -- will be the same ones he'll need to re-negotiate with, starting July 1. Securing Early Bird Rights for Lin and Smith would help -- and could make space for Steve Nash.

The Knicks, by the way, have never had an Executive of the Year winner.

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Well at least he didn't finish last. Personally, I thought RC Buford of San Antonio or Neil Olshey of the Clippers were more deserving than Larry Legend.

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5/16/2012  4:23 PM
what did Bird do that was that well done? He acquired David West?
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5/16/2012  4:29 PM
skeng wrote:what did Bird do that was that well done? He acquired David West?

From ESPN:

The Pacers went 42-24 and are tied 1-1 with Miami in the second round of the Eastern Conference playoffs. Bird's moves to strengthen the team during the offseason included promoting Frank Vogel from interim to head coach and signing starting forward David West.

He acquired point guard George Hill in a draft-night deal with San Antonio, and traded for Lou Amundson and Leandro Barbosa to fortify the bench for the Pacers, who earned the No. 3 seed in the East and had the fifth-best record in the league.

He also resigned his coach (Big Whoop), made draft day trade for George Hill, then traded for Lou Amundson and Leandro Barbosa (Also Big Whoop). For real, the Executive of the Year should be renamed to the RC Buford award. The guy is incredible.

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5/16/2012  4:50 PM
Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

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5/16/2012  5:09 PM
Larry's team was the 3rd seed in the east. 5th Best overall. Better than Lakes.

No stars. Small market team. Like SAS.

Big improvement from last year. Franchise is on solid footing again.

Gm responsable for roster and other aspects of franchise.

Grunny did a nice job. Team can amnisty for 14 mil, AND go out and spend another 14 on another player. NO team came close to doing that.

Grunny looked good but Daddy WarBucks gave him the juice to do it.

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5/16/2012  5:29 PM
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

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5/16/2012  5:33 PM
Grunwald should have come in 3rd place at worst.
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5/16/2012  5:42 PM
TheGame wrote:Grunwald should have come in 3rd place at worst.

Like the great Chinease Philospher once said:

"If you don't finish first your a loser like everyone else!"

Yes, that great man now sits enshrined in bronze outside the great sports palace in Beijing!

So Grunny being 3rd or 6th really does not matter if your not finished first.

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5/16/2012  5:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/16/2012  5:48 PM
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

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5/16/2012  5:52 PM
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

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5/16/2012  7:29 PM
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

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5/16/2012  7:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.

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mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!
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ShellTopAdidas wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!

Exactly, he should've resigned earlier so we could've gotten a better record and higher seed!

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5/17/2012  9:02 AM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!

Woodson's stock is pretty high now. He should see what other teams are looking for coaches. The longer you work for Dolan, the worse off you are. He has a great chance to move up.
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5/17/2012  12:11 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!

Exactly, he should've resigned earlier so we could've gotten a better record and higher seed!


No, if certain players brought in and didn't insist on Meloball, we would have gotten an even better record and even a higher seed.
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5/17/2012  12:35 PM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!

Exactly, he should've resigned earlier so we could've gotten a better record and higher seed!


No, if certain players brought in and didn't insist on Meloball, we would have gotten an even better record and even a higher seed.

And if we got player A, and system B, and the stars aligned...enough with the excuses!

You are what your record says you are - Bill Parcells
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5/17/2012  12:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/17/2012  1:01 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
martin wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Bird assembled most, if not all, of that roster over the years. He deserves the award.

Grunwald is ridiculously overrated here. Throwing max money at Tyson Chandler is not deserving of an award. Anyone could have done that. And as for Lin and Novak, nobody ever saw that coming. Not even Lin and Novak.

isn't this what makes someone better than another? Grunwald saw something in both of those guys and pursued them.

Grunwald didn't see anything. He signed these guys to fill out the end of the bench. He never envisioned this. Nobody in the entire league, or even the world, saw it coming.

Doesn't mean that Grunwald didn't see potential enough for them to be good enough to be on the team.

Also, please back up your statement that Grunwald didn't see anything. How do you know that?

Spurs drafted Tony Parker and Manu and I am pretty sure the Spurs organization didn't think that both would be at the high level of all stars that they turned out to be, doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for recognizing the potential.

Same for what most were thinking about how Walsh did with drafting Fields after his initial year.

JamesKPolk, It's not true that no one saw it coming because Novak was known within the NBA as a serious sharp shooter, which is what we brought him in for. MDA wanted a stretch 4 to replace Shawne, which is a huge part of MDA likes to have on his roster. As for Lin, there were those even on this forum that were very high on Lin and both MDA and Grunwald actually liked Lin's talent despite not drafting him.. When you're a GM you have to keep your eye out for guys that aren't heralded, but you know they have specific NBA skills. In this case Grunwald was specifically looking for players that he felt would fit with what MDA likes to do. A penetrating PG and a sharpshooting forward is a very specific role in an MDA offense and Grunwald found 2 good players that fit those roles perfectly!!!

It sounds to me that MDA deserved exec of the year.


He sure as Hell didn't deserve what he got.....don't even get me started! Smh!

Exactly, he should've resigned earlier so we could've gotten a better record and higher seed!


No, if certain players brought in and didn't insist on Meloball, we would have gotten an even better record and even a higher seed.

And if we got player A, and system B, and the stars aligned...enough with the excuses!

You are what your record says you are - Bill Parcells

What excuses??? Melo admitted he didn't play hard till Woody was coach. He gave MDA system the hook without really giving it a chance cause the offence didn't go thru him and management backed Melo 100%. And that's ok??? C'mon son!!!!
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