Bonn1997 wrote:Are you saying the Knicks played better without Ewing? I'm missing the connection to him.

That

Wasn't there a time when people also wanted Ewing off the bench? Camby was tha sh!t!

I kinda expect the Knicks to play better on defense and if Melo can somehow replicate his post-Lin play, they could probably lose by 4.

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are you saying the Knicks played better without Ewing? I'm missing the connection to him.

That

Wasn't there a time when people also wanted Ewing off the bench? Camby was tha sh!t!

I kinda expect the Knicks to play better on defense and if Melo can somehow replicate his post-Lin play, they could probably lose by 4.

nah, it wasn't that they/we/I wanted him off the bench but, that we wanted him to understand that he wasn't that Dude anymore. That he had to recognize that Alan and Spree were options 1&2 and that he wasn't likely going to get 20shots a game anymore. Ewing didn't accept reality until he got hurt in 99 and then it was like you guys win it for me.

The hate was never deserved because he took us out of mediocrity and had the house rocking for years but, his communication skills with fans and the media didn't help his cause as he got older.

Say what you want but Pat played on both ends and never took a day off.

gunsnewing wrote:oh we're talking about 99 after ewing's wrist and achilles surgery and a surging Camby. When in reality we probably don't beat the Heat without Ewing neutralizing Alonzo in the 1st round. Had Ewing played against Drob & Duncan the Knicks might not have lost in 5 and were completely overmatched in the frontcourt.

I loved that team, even when Ewing went down. Actually respected them even more because of that amazing run. Was expecting a similar one, at least in attitude because the team has talent, but I guess they don't believe they have enough to take the Heat. I did, when the series started.

DurzoBlint wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are you saying the Knicks played better without Ewing? I'm missing the connection to him.

That

Wasn't there a time when people also wanted Ewing off the bench? Camby was tha sh!t!

I kinda expect the Knicks to play better on defense and if Melo can somehow replicate his post-Lin play, they could probably lose by 4.

nah, it wasn't that they/we/I wanted him off the bench but, that we wanted him to understand that he wasn't that Dude anymore. That he had to recognize that Alan and Spree were options 1&2 and that he wasn't likely going to get 20shots a game anymore. Ewing didn't accept reality until he got hurt in 99 and then it was like you guys win it for me.

The hate was never deserved because he took us out of mediocrity and had the house rocking for years but, his communication skills with fans and the media didn't help his cause as he got older.

Say what you want but Pat played on both ends and never took a day off.

Yeah, Ewing was something else. Too bad he never got to taste a championship.

DurzoBlint wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:oh we're talking about 99 after ewing's wrist and achilles surgery and a surging Camby. When in reality we probably don't beat the Heat without Ewing neutralizing Alonzo in the 1st round. Had Ewing played against Drob & Duncan the Knicks might have not lost in 5 as they were overmatched in the frontcourt like no other

I am not knocking Ewing!

He was a shell of himself at that point. Jordan was great but not on Washington he wasnt.

I remember that. They were calling Zoe the best Center in the East which pissed Pat off. Pat declared at the start of that series that he was still the best and went out AND PROVED IT. I will always remember the fire in Ewing. You almost expected smoke and fire to come out of those wide ass nostrils.

Man, if our stars had half that fire, it wouldn't be that easy to beat us. Ewing was a force.

gunsnewing wrote:All I ever wanted was for Ewing to finally get his ring. The Knicks can win a championship this year and it would never be as sweet as it could've been watching Ewing hoist the trophy. Knicks never really got him that 2nd SUPERSTAR 96-97 came close if not for PJ Brown but they would've still had to beat Jordan's Bulls

I share the feeling. He always worked so hard and was proud of wearing orange and blue. I would love to get him back as an assistant and win a championship so we could see him hoisting the trophy surrounded by orange and blue, like it should've been back then.

A man can dream.

Here's what I call the "Cosell Theory": the press really are scum, and the people in sports media are the scrapings at the bottom of the scum barrel.

Ewing was the Knicks for almost two decades; and most of the press are still nourishing their inner bitch about him. No wonder he hardly ever talked to them.