Chandler has been great and I am glad we have him ...

However, was it really worth not saving the amnesty for Amare? I am sure they thought about this as a fallback.

Suppose we kept Billups for a second, this offseason we could have AND CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE amnestied Amare and had billups expiring money.

32 million(ish) per - 28 million?

So I ask ... Is Tyson and Amare worth that? All those pieces that we could have had for 30 million per!!! For all those who argue that we need pieces to win and we gave them all to denver. How many pieces could we have had in this scenario?

Now I love Tyson but he is mostly a one way player and is certainly no Bynum or Howard (though I hate Howard and would not want him). Tyson is not a (max) star!

I know everyone loves Tyson and I am opening up a can of worms but is it so off?

gunsnewing wrote:Hindsight yea we should've used it on him and not billups but it doesn't work that way unfortunately. Knicks would've got killed for amnestying a supposedly healthy Amare over Billups who didn't factor into their future plans. But not trading for Chandler and saving it for Amare I don't know. Elite defensive centers are hard to come by.

Tyson is valuable but at 10-12 Not at 30 million - which is what it ends up being. I could be totally off on my calculations and cap knowledge - I hope someone corrects me if I'm way off.

also, we keep billups we might never sign lin in the first place.

so, i dunno.

i'm really glad they got tyson.

then again, amar'e is a huge problem in this team's construction at this point. so. sigh.

VDesai wrote:Other than game 1, Amare's been scoring at a really efficient clip from the field. He looks like he has quite a bit more explosion. What was the Melo backlash has now turned into Amare backlash. It's neither's fault that they can't play with each other. It's also both of their faults they can't play with each other. Its certainly not one and not the other. They need to lock themselves in a gym with a coach and figure this **** out.

Though they both are dicks for not playing better together, Melo still looks like he has a sh1t load of talent and can play defense. I don't think Amare has either and like I said many times, if he plays 40 pct of his remaining games on his contract I will be overly shocked.

mrKnickShot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think if you can get Tyson you make that move. I don't think the Knicks knew how bad Amare's back injury was because of the lockout. If his knees were giving out then you could say not using the amnesty was a mistake. Tyson is a pretty big chip and a cornerstone. I think even the most conservative gm would have a hard time passing him up. Also, guys like Davis and Smith signed in NY and I would guess that Tyson's presence helped their decision.

Davis and Smith are gone and we don't have cap room for them or Novak!

Many of us questioned the safety and sanity of this move back then. They had to know that Amare was a huge risk especially after the Boston series.

It comes down to Chandler now being worth 30 million in cap space. I am sure we could have figured out what to do with 30 million.

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:Other than game 1, Amare's been scoring at a really efficient clip from the field. He looks like he has quite a bit more explosion. What was the Melo backlash has now turned into Amare backlash. It's neither's fault that they can't play with each other. It's also both of their faults they can't play with each other. Its certainly not one and not the other. They need to lock themselves in a gym with a coach and figure this **** out.

I think part of the problem is not having a PG who can break his defender down. Over the past year the Knicks have had too much variation at he position.

Thats certainly fair but it did not really work with Lin and both of them either. PG for now is their glaring weakness. Chandler and Amare don't really work that great either.

How do you feel about the amnesty? Is there some validity here?

mrKnickShot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think if you can get Tyson you make that move. I don't think the Knicks knew how bad Amare's back injury was because of the lockout. If his knees were giving out then you could say not using the amnesty was a mistake. Tyson is a pretty big chip and a cornerstone. I think even the most conservative gm would have a hard time passing him up. Also, guys like Davis and Smith signed in NY and I would guess that Tyson's presence helped their decision.

Davis and Smith are gone and we don't have cap room for them or Novak!

Many of us questioned the safety and sanity of this move back then. They had to know that Amare was a huge risk especially after the Boston series.

It comes down to Chandler now being worth 30 million in cap space. I am sure we could have figured out what to do with 30 million.

Good god man, you are wrong. You need to stop posting about who he Knicks can or cannot sign, you have missed the dozen thread explaining what the team can and cannot do.