The only reason that Howard puts up numbers is because the lack of depth at the C position in the NBA. Back in the day of the big man Howard would be nothing special.

I actually get pissed in the post-game when Tina goes up and asks Tyson what he thought about Lin or Melo or Amar'e's game. What about his game, Tina?

Knicks would be nowhere near 5th defensively without Tyson. He makes everyone's job easier, because they know if their man gets by them, it's not an easy layup and there's time to recover. I would love Woodson to name him captain at some point. Or even tr-captain with Amar'e and MElo.

crzymdups wrote:Chandler and Shump are my favorite knicks in quite a while.

I actually get pissed in the post-game when Tina goes up and asks Tyson what he thought about Lin or Melo or Amar'e's game. What about his game, Tina?

Knicks would be nowhere near 5th defensively without Tyson. He makes everyone's job easier, because they know if their man gets by them, it's not an easy layup and there's time to recover. I would love Woodson to name him captain at some point. Or even tr-captain with Amar'e and MElo.

I agree my 2 favorite knicks as well. As much as I like to watch Melo and Amare play when they are at their best there is something missing in both. With Melo its his personality and with Amare its his total lack of effort on D for his entire career that makes it hard to like them the way I did Ewing, h20, LJ, spree & oak in the past

MS wrote:
Switch Chandler with Howard and the magic are under .500 period! Orlando is 32-19 we are 26-25.

There is no basis for such a statement. It is pure conjecture. I bet if Melo and Amare both were out the Knicks wouldn't have a prayer of finishing above 500. Oh wait...some guy from the end of the bench and other backup players won 7 in a row. I forgot about that. You cannot say what the Magic's record would be without Dwight until it happens.

They guy has been a force as he has been able to stay on the court and not have nasty injury.

This is a guy that I believe was traded to OK but the deal recended because of an injury. OK had him!

TC was never in the "eddy" under achiever mode but the injury thing.

18 year old bigs get hurt in this league. They don't have the "Man Legs" to withstand the weight of the NBA.

MS wrote:You can absolutley say the magic would be under .500. We are a game above .500 with the guy. Tyson has zero offensive game to speak of and as medicore as Dwight is inside he averages 20 points a game and gets open shots for everyone on the floor. You switch out a top 4 NBA player for a top 20-25 guy it's what's going to happen. The second best player on the magic is ryan anderson the third is who exactly? They have no bench and terrible starter at nearly every position.

DH is fed the ball in at least 55% of ORL possessions ( guesstimate), Tyson gets about 10% of ours. How can you compare the PPG numbers. That doesn't take away from the need to for him develop some offensive moves.