http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/022704/c0127ianc.html

According to the article, no one is untouchable in the off-season. That includes Marbury in a possible sign and trade with Kobe. This is speculation, but I would do it in a heart-beat.

I wouldtrade Marbury for Kobe in a heart beat and let Frank run the point along with Kobe, send penny to a team that wants ending contract in return for young talent. Send KT to dallas after we resign him for antoine walker or Jamison. oohhhhhhh yeaaaa babyyy

why was my post deleted?


once a gain, hell no, no kobe please i hate him i would rather loose wit marbury who i like and at least try than win wit someone like his arrogant @ss , i wouldent even deal marbs for shaq but maybe that cuz he is like my fav player

Posted by MaTT4281:

I'd prefer to keep stephon. On the off chance we do make a sign and trade...I'd prefer to go after someone like tmac over kobe.

tmac has way less heart than kobe. Tmac cant lead his team to the playoffs in the eastern conference. COME ON! They have Juwan Howard and they had Rod Strickland at PG, Shammond Williams, and Gooden at PF.

They had as many pieces as other playoff bound-lesser teams in the east have.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by MaTT4281:

I'd prefer to keep stephon. On the off chance we do make a sign and trade...I'd prefer to go after someone like tmac over kobe.

tmac has way less heart than kobe. Tmac cant lead his team to the playoffs in the eastern conference. COME ON! They have Juwan Howard and they had Rod Strickland at PG, Shammond Williams, and Gooden at PF.

They had as many pieces as other playoff bound-lesser teams in the east have.

before u judge how tmac does...do u honestly think kobe could lead the magic to the playoffs if u swapped him and tmac

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by MaTT4281:

I'd prefer to keep stephon. On the off chance we do make a sign and trade...I'd prefer to go after someone like tmac over kobe.

tmac has way less heart than kobe. Tmac cant lead his team to the playoffs in the eastern conference. COME ON! They have Juwan Howard and they had Rod Strickland at PG, Shammond Williams, and Gooden at PF.

They had as many pieces as other playoff bound-lesser teams in the east have.

Caseloads, I usualy respect the things you say.... but you are completely wrong. As a Magic season ticket holder, I can tell you that the team absolutely sucks. Tmac is the man, and besides that, the next best thing they have is Gooden, (who is just like the rookie version of Kenyon Martin... (you know, the guy who can't do a thing on his own... needs a good PG)

Gooden can't create his own shot, so they double and triple team Tmac. Strickland is NOWHERE near what he used to be, and Juwon Howard ends up with the ball most of the time. He does this stupid little hop-step, then toses up a prayer... ALMOST EVERY TIME. Watcha magic game in the fourth quarter sometime. If Tmac doesn't bring the ball upcourt, he can't even touch the ball, the way he's guarded.

Kobe could not save this team. We need to blow it all up, trade for picks and rebuild.

Posted by jazz74:

Posted by simrud:

Kobe could not save this team. We need to blow it all up, trade for picks and rebuild.

i agree that kobe can not save this team or any team by himself for that matter. he is not jordan and t-mac is marginally better than kobe. how is his team doing so far? we can not build a successful team around a shooting guard unless we have good people in most positions around the court. but i do not think we need to push the panic button. it is VERY disturbing that we lost this many games but incredibly we are still in the race for sixth seed ( only in the east).we are finally healthy and we are back east so there is hope. wilkins have to try to light a fire under this team and be a little more creative. but having houston back is a big plus.

Then how can we build a successful team around a pg if we can't build it around a sg as you say jazz in your post. This team : you either want to win this yr when the trades were made or you want to just get in playoffs so phoenix won't get a lottery pick.

Posted by playa2:

Posted by jazz74:

Posted by simrud:

Kobe could not save this team. We need to blow it all up, trade for picks and rebuild.

i agree that kobe can not save this team or any team by himself for that matter. he is not jordan and t-mac is marginally better than kobe. how is his team doing so far? we can not build a successful team around a shooting guard unless we have good people in most positions around the court. but i do not think we need to push the panic button. it is VERY disturbing that we lost this many games but incredibly we are still in the race for sixth seed ( only in the east).we are finally healthy and we are back east so there is hope. wilkins have to try to light a fire under this team and be a little more creative. but having houston back is a big plus.

Then how can we build a successful team around a pg if we can't build it around a sg as you say jazz in your post. This team : you either want to win this yr when the trades were made or you want to just get in playoffs so phoenix won't get a lottery pick.

the 1 and 2 positions have different expectations, playa. are you saying a point guard is not an important position? this is the person who pretty much manipulates everything on the floor. he is the one who handles the rock, calls the plays and reads defenses. the point guard dictates the tempo of the game. he creates shots for him self and his teammates. i have coached basketball before and know that the point is the position that i wasnt the most stable from all positions.

the funtion of a 2 guard is to create your own shot basically. i am not saying that is all they do. you can see how multitalented kobe and mcgrady are. but to win with a shooting guard is very difficult becuase teams can defend that position better and shut down your two guard easier.

Posted by jazz74:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by jazz74:

Posted by simrud:

Kobe could not save this team. We need to blow it all up, trade for picks and rebuild.

i agree that kobe can not save this team or any team by himself for that matter. he is not jordan and t-mac is marginally better than kobe. how is his team doing so far? we can not build a successful team around a shooting guard unless we have good people in most positions around the court. but i do not think we need to push the panic button. it is VERY disturbing that we lost this many games but incredibly we are still in the race for sixth seed ( only in the east).we are finally healthy and we are back east so there is hope. wilkins have to try to light a fire under this team and be a little more creative. but having houston back is a big plus.

Then how can we build a successful team around a pg if we can't build it around a sg as you say jazz in your post. This team : you either want to win this yr when the trades were made or you want to just get in playoffs so phoenix won't get a lottery pick.

the 1 and 2 positions have different expectations, playa. are you saying a point guard is not an important position? this is the person who pretty much manipulates everything on the floor. he is the one who handles the rock, calls the plays and reads defenses. the point guard dictates the tempo of the game. he creates shots for him self and his teammates. i have coached basketball before and know that the point is the position that i wasnt the most stable from all positions.

the funtion of a 2 guard is to create your own shot basically. i am not saying that is all they do. you can see how multitalented kobe and mcgrady are. but to win with a shooting guard is very difficult becuase teams can defend that position better and shut down your two guard easier.

Jazz I'm just feeding off your post man, you made it sound like a sg with the right people around him on the court can't make a team successful, only a pg. I don't believe that.