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Three things I think this team should get back to.
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Anji
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3/11/2012  3:24 PM
1) We got to get back to the press and the trapping defense. This team has extremely good hands on defense, even the dreaded CM & AS. It get's the teams blood flowing and sparks the offense threw fast break points.

2) We have to get back to having a first and second unit again. The BD/Lin experiment should be over. The second unit has lost it's punch and I see Novack taking less and less shots the more we break up the second unit. They used to live on SN good looks and that is slowly dying with all the mixing of the two units.

3) We got to pick 10 and stay with those 10 players. Novack and JJ2 are the main stays off the bench, we need to choose between Fields, Shumps, JR, Baron, and Jorts. 11 players is messing the chemistry of this team.

I would start Shump with TC and Bring Novack/JJ2/Jorts off the bench.

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3/11/2012  3:54 PM
Can we trade Melo too?
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3/11/2012  7:07 PM
We just need our defense back. We had a very strong defensive unit that played substantial minutes during the streak which was created by Defense more than offense. I'm hoping that we can get Jared back so we can see the Lin, Shump, Fields, Jared and Tyson unit again. Then if you mix in Melo for scoring it makes more sense. We need that kind of D for key stretches of time each game.
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3/11/2012  7:22 PM
nixluva wrote:We just need our defense back. We had a very strong defensive unit that played substantial minutes during the streak which was created by Defense more than offense. I'm hoping that we can get Jared back so we can see the Lin, Shump, Fields, Jared and Tyson unit again. Then if you mix in Melo for scoring it makes more sense. We need that kind of D for key stretches of time each game.

I do agree. The main diff with us now and the 8-1 champion knick team is defense. JJ not being in there really hurts. Melo's defense is not that bad but Stat? eeeeeeesh.

This is on the coach as much as the players to get going.

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3/12/2012  12:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2012  12:47 AM
I think it's probably not as cut and dry as one player. The whole team seemed to have gotten worst after more and more time off during the break. How does a team get practice time and perform worst???

Is it too many facets, too many options??? Is it as simple as Jeremy Lin running 95+ screens with a very simple choice of either he shoots or passes. Would that even work now as most of his pnr's can't even make it to the rim.

How does a team come out flat after half time??? I remember Larry Brown's knick team and it was clear the starters tuned him out and the always got blown out. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ot, and then Nate and Lee and Frye would come of the bench and go on huge 20 point runs. How is it half-time is problem for a team???

Is it as simple as the other team adjusting and we aren't?? I mean this knicks team was shredding the celtics in the first half and just fell apart in the third. WTF is the reason for that???

There is alot of things this team had going good that they plan just don't do anymore, saying play more D doesn't look like it will be answer IMO.

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3/12/2012  12:46 AM
Anji wrote:I think it's probably not as cut and dry as one player. The whole team seemed to get worst afte more and more time off. How does a team get pratice and perform worst???

Is it too many facets, too many options???

How does a team come out flat after half time??? I remember Larry Brown's knick team and it was clear the starters tuned him out and the always got blown out. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ot, and then Nate and Lee and Frye would come of the bench and go on huge 20 point runs. How is it half-time is problem for a team???

Is it as simple as the other team adjusting and we aren't?? I mean this knicks team was shredding the celtics in the first half and just fell apart in the third. WTF is the reason for that???

There is alot of things this team had going good that they plan just don't do anymore, saying play more D doesn't look like it will be answer IMO.

Well ... We should figure out who is giving the Half Time Speech and change the person and context. That would be a good place to start. That, is obviously not a good speech.

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3/12/2012  7:23 AM
I think this team should get back to ... Charles Dolan. Jim Dumblan should be neutered.
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3/12/2012  3:11 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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3/12/2012  3:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2012  3:13 PM
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?
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3/12/2012  4:05 PM
This team should get back to unwarranted optimism and bluster, sexual harrassment & serial coach humiliation - all the stuff that made the Isiah years great.
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Anji
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3/12/2012  4:56 PM
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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3/12/2012  5:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2012  5:09 PM
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

well i guess the answer is no you dont blame them certainly not your favorite player. look i never said MDA is a greta coach or he should be given an extension but just putting the blame on him is stupid. hell when i played in 5th grad i blamed myself if i had an off game not the coach. They're professionas they are not wearing diapers stop treating them like babies
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3/12/2012  5:10 PM
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?

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3/12/2012  5:13 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?

well i felt the same until you made fun of my grandfather
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3/12/2012  5:13 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?


ROFL!!!


Look man, was going to make a thread to commend you for trolling the trolls, but I don't like making to many threads............................ so ill just thank you here.

It's been a blast man and keep up the good work.

"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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3/12/2012  5:15 PM
Anji wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?


ROFL!!!


Look man, was going to make a thread to commend you for trolling the trolls, but I don't like making to many threads............................ so ill just thank you here.

It's been a blast man and keep up the good work.

i guess you two have ****ed recently?
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3/12/2012  5:19 PM
Anji wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?


ROFL!!!


Look man, was going to make a thread to commend you for trolling the trolls, but I don't like making to many threads............................ so ill just thank you here.

It's been a blast man and keep up the good work.

Thanks Man!

JCrusher, He kewl. He's just a kid. We gotta be nice to him.

It would be nice if next year in 8th grade (for the 4th time) he learned to make some of his own arguments with his own opinions and did some research instead of regurgitated half liners. Trolling for other trolls.

He comes in like a mosquito in every thread.

Anyway JCRusher, you know I am just kidding right? Just Messing With Ya! We Kewl - I have no beef with you. I agree with you.

You and me JCrusher. We gots to go drinking ... when you are of age of course ... kidding again LOL LOL LOL LOL

LOL

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3/12/2012  5:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2012  5:22 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Anji wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17685359/a-chemical-study-carmelo-anthony-struggling-in-the-jeremy-lin-era

Good article with videos and pictures.

I wonder how Amare and Melo think about being called the stars of the team but they have to pin their success on a point guard we picked up off of waivers.

Anji do you ever put blame on our stars for anything?

Well I heard a very interesting argument this morning that went like this:

Why is the head of the team in Football and Basketball called a coach
and
Why is the head of the team in baseball called a manager?

And to me the answer is simple, if you look at Baseball they do have coaches, hitting and pitching and first base. These coaches are the people who actually teach or re-enforce the game plan and philosophy of the manager. It's the managers job to put his talent in the best possible positions threw out the game.

It football and Basketball, it's the that does both these jobs(for the most part, FB coach has alot more help). The ability to teach and mold your team to play the way you want is a part of the this coaches job as well as putting them in the best position to succeed.

So following that train of thought, everything flows from the coach then you deal with the his ability to manage the personal after you answer a few key question. 1) Does the Coach have what he needs 2) Does the coach manage his players in the best position to succeed.


Point blank this coach fails a manager either way you try to gave him an out because A) he is not getting the most out of Melo, and Stat... along with Jr, TD, BW, Fields is up and down and Lin is falling to earth hard. If you believe that he knows that Lin plus TC is the best team we have, he isn't playing what is best for the team.

From the coach to the players is how I view every sport. So a coach has being a lot of good that things that fall short because the talent isn't their or a position isn't filled. Having too much talent or players you don't need is never an excuse for losing and playing horribly.

hell when i played in 5th grad

Wasn't that just last year LOL LOL LOL

Just kidding man I have no beef with you - we're kewl JCrusher?


ROFL!!!


Look man, was going to make a thread to commend you for trolling the trolls, but I don't like making to many threads............................ so ill just thank you here.

It's been a blast man and keep up the good work.

Thanks Man!

JCrusher, He kewl. He's just a kid. We gotta be nice to him.

It would be nice if next year in 8th grade (for the 4th time) he learned to make some of his own arguments with his own opinions and did some research instead of regurgitated half liners. Trolling for other trolls.

He comes in like a mosquito in every thread.

Anyway JCRusher, you know I am just kidding right? Just Messing With Ya! We Kewl - I have no beef with you. I agree with you.

You and me JCrusher. We gots to go drinking ... when you are of age of course ... kidding again LOL LOL LOL LOL

LOL

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