He should leave.

There have been a few precious times in his 4 years whether by design or injury where you see it all come together. His body of work in PHX and at times here demonstrates it can be done.

In fact, NY loves this kind of play.

If there is a brand of "Knicks Basketball" its not the Ewing era of slow ball waiting for him to get into position, or smash mouth low score Riley ball. Knicks ball is the prime Red Holzman Era.

"Hit the open man!"

And if you did not play Defense, you got taken out.

Players who sacrificed their individual stats to accomplish. They are remembered not for the stats or all star games, but winning and doing it with style as a team!

The Suns were one of my favorite teams to watch and the open style of play reminded me of the Holzman era but with less defense. For a few years the Sunswere annual contenders. I'll take that over dysfunction any time. They moved the ball and Nash was a Maestro!

I think we were on the right track with Amare and role players but its clear Melo is not the type of player that can play within such a system.

The big picture was not about Gallo, or Felton as championship pieces, but the allocation of assets used in that trade to bring in the wrong type of player.

Donnie had a vision. Maybe it was not preMelo Drama but it was a work in progress and as we have seen big name players did shake loose. CP3, Deron and Dwight. Im not saying they become knicks or expound on the Amnesty benefits of exiling Chauns for Tyson.....but look at the team as currently constructed. Its laden with ill fitting talent. Amare-Melo-TC all great players. Together not so.

Does it remind us of perhaps who is really running things? A man who collects talent without thought of how it fits?

Isiah.

He constructed teams with so much wrong talent that HOF coachs like Wilkens and Larry Brown looked bad. Isiah himself a good coach looked bad. Dolan got brazen and the rumors were there that Isiah was in his ear urging him to do this.

Melo is a bad fit. A headache for all who coach him. Nice kid and I think he means well. He wanted the spot light and the money and who can blame him.

One of the greatest stories in a long time for NY was Linsanity. The team went on a run even with Amare. Amare can play with Nash, he can play with Lin. Melo comes back and "Murders Linsanity" (someone in the UK said this)!

As for MDA? Coach K's right hand olympic coach and the one he calls an offensive genius. Team plays good defense so we can't blame that effort. In my mind its not MDA that is the problem.

MDA has the wrong Management behind him and won't succeed until they are in concert with his efforts. He can take the Novaks, Shawn Williams, Landry, Mozz and win with them. He can't use the skill set of Melo and blend it in.

I think we have another fine coach who comes to realize what a joke Dolan is and like others was seduced by the big money and the lure of winning in NY! The one that can do that will be a wealthy legend.

The biggest Ego around is Phil Jax. If Dolan Hires him he better be prepared to get out of the way. I would think Phil Jax is smart enough and has enough juice to put it all up front in writing.

Can Phil be larger than all of them and put it together? I don't know. I don't pretend that MDA is the problem either and his simple removal is the key. Is the Isiah plant, "Coach Woodson" the answer? I don't know, but I do know that what I am seeing on the court right now is not fun to watch.

I am all for this coming together and perhaps in time it can even with MDA. Give him the juice to bench Melo.

If MDA can't get that kind of power then its clear, he should leave cuz it won't work with Melo being a ball dominant player.

The root of the problem is defense. We all know defense is what wins in the league, but it seems to me after every game all we discuss is how bad the our offense looks, etc. This coach is an offenseive coordinator, simple and plain. Our defensive system is middle-school-esque with the constant switching (gaurds on centers) and when we blow assigniments, we never see Stat or the likes get pulled. He hardly makes any in-game adjustments and we never have the advantage on the sidelines. So, yes I agree, We do need a new coach. One that will put a premium on defense and hold players accountable.

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:Im coming to the conclusion that MDA does not have to go.

He should leave.

There have been a few precious times in his 4 years whether by design or injury where you see it all come together. His body of work in PHX and at times here demonstrates it can be done.

In fact, NY loves this kind of play.

If there is a brand of "Knicks Basketball" its not the Ewing era of slow ball waiting for him to get into position, or smash mouth low score Riley ball. Knicks ball is the prime Red Holzman Era.

"Hit the open man!"

And if you did not play Defense, you got taken out.

Players who sacrificed their individual stats to accomplish. They are remembered not for the stats or all star games, but winning and doing it with style as a team!

The Suns were one of my favorite teams to watch and the open style of play reminded me of the Holzman era but with less defense. For a few years the Sunswere annual contenders. I'll take that over dysfunction any time. They moved the ball and Nash was a Maestro!

I think we were on the right track with Amare and role players but its clear Melo is not the type of player that can play within such a system.

The big picture was not about Gallo, or Felton as championship pieces, but the allocation of assets used in that trade to bring in the wrong type of player.

Donnie had a vision. Maybe it was not preMelo Drama but it was a work in progress and as we have seen big name players did shake loose. CP3, Deron and Dwight. Im not saying they become knicks or expound on the Amnesty benefits of exiling Chauns for Tyson.....but look at the team as currently constructed. Its laden with ill fitting talent. Amare-Melo-TC all great players. Together not so.

Does it remind us of perhaps who is really running things? A man who collects talent without thought of how it fits?

Isiah.

He constructed teams with so much wrong talent that HOF coachs like Wilkens and Larry Brown looked bad. Isiah himself a good coach looked bad. Dolan got brazen and the rumors were there that Isiah was in his ear urging him to do this.

Melo is a bad fit. A headache for all who coach him. Nice kid and I think he means well. He wanted the spot light and the money and who can blame him.

One of the greatest stories in a long time for NY was Linsanity. The team went on a run even with Amare. Amare can play with Nash, he can play with Lin. Melo comes back and "Murders Linsanity" (someone in the UK said this)!

As for MDA? Coach K's right hand olympic coach and the one he calls an offensive genius. Team plays good defense so we can't blame that effort. In my mind its not MDA that is the problem.

MDA has the wrong Management behind him and won't succeed until they are in concert with his efforts. He can take the Novaks, Shawn Williams, Landry, Mozz and win with them. He can't use the skill set of Melo and blend it in.

I think we have another fine coach who comes to realize what a joke Dolan is and like others was seduced by the big money and the lure of winning in NY! The one that can do that will be a wealthy legend.

The biggest Ego around is Phil Jax. If Dolan Hires him he better be prepared to get out of the way. I would think Phil Jax is smart enough and has enough juice to put it all up front in writing.

Can Phil be larger than all of them and put it together? I don't know. I don't pretend that MDA is the problem either and his simple removal is the key. Is the Isiah plant, "Coach Woodson" the answer? I don't know, but I do know that what I am seeing on the court right now is not fun to watch.

I am all for this coming together and perhaps in time it can even with MDA. Give him the juice to bench Melo.

If MDA can't get that kind of power then its clear, he should leave cuz it won't work with Melo being a ball dominant player.

You mention Jackson he is going to make Melo ball dominant and win with him being ball dominant.

Yes, Phil has, what, 11 rings on the backs of ball dominant players....

BigRedDog wrote:So this is the new plan?? Hire Jackson, who is like 90 yrs old and is NOT coming to this team. What is the next plan when Jackson turns us down?? Hire a coach " like" Jackson-- easy, because coachs like Jackson grow on trees. Lets hear some real ideas that make sense.

It s not my plan. If he wants to come here then you have to offer him the job. But, we need a defensive minded coach with an actual system (not that switching nonsense) and holds players accountable.

BRIGGS wrote:Melo kills this team. I dont care if he scores 30 a night---no D kills the flow of the game and is a prima dona we have another Marbury situation--hes not psycho like marbury but this will hurt us

Certainly Melo doesn't fit what this coach wants to do, but neither does the Chandler/Amare combination...During the important stretch in the 4th quarter of the Boston game, Chandler was on the bench a good 7 and half mins...Celtics was taking turns blowing by Novak on three consecutive plays to the rim with Chandler was still on the bench...I knew then MDA doesn't have much use for Amare/Chandler at the same time...The following game against the Mavs...Chandler played 26 mins again missing important parts of the 4th quarter that Novak played...He is our best defender...My ultimate point is, this roster wasn't constructed with MDA in mind...He will not change his style to suit the roster...He needs a strong PG who dominates the ball, with a strong pick and roll option, three guys equally ready to shoot the three...Melo and Amare should be shooting 10 free throws per game, this offense doesn't allow that...Melo isn't a spot up shooter...

And about Melo's D, Have you seen Lin, Amare and Novak...They aren't getting killed more so than Melo on the defensively end????

That game was not winnable. This was the throw away game. It happens.

Even at full strength the Spurs are tough at home.

IM not delusional to think last nite was a good sample.

Its the offense Im worried about.

Its easy to blame the coach and in the end he is accountable.

But while some of you will feel good to have him gone I don't think many are thinking thru it and what will a new coach change to improve it.

YOu can have a team with an AMare or a Melo and cover for them on defense. Can you have both?

Its the offense. What did Karl have that we don't? Bout 7 full seasons in hindsight. MDA before he came here avged 55 wins per year in PHX. Melo leaves Denver all of a sudden Karl is great again? MDA has had how many roster changes in 3.5 years?

Karl usually had pt guards, had the birdman playing defense, had NENE, had Iverson, Billups, Andre Miller, etc. He had some nice pieces and is a good coach. They had some continuous rosters in place.

Melo is not lighting it up like he did in his early 20's. We are not seeing Melo carrying the team as some all stars should IN STRETCHES! IM not saying he should carry is by himself but the type of player he is can carry you for a few games here and there. Isn't he suppose to be "MELO"? Isn' the suppose to be better than Glen Rice? Big Dogg Robinson? Bernard King?

Baron Davis is not hitting shots. Literally!

We all can see whats going on but the thought the coaches don't see it, not working to try to adjust, or simply ignorant is kind of naive.

Was Chaney-Wilkens-Brown-Herb-Isiah and MDA all inept? Really, 6 coaches in all?

For years we call for their heads, yell how "They Suck".

Year after year its the same crap bitching about the coach.

YEar after year. Wet, lather, rinse, repeat.

Every regime we get a new hope.

Take a step back. Its suppose to be "Different" this time?

"Grunwald Exec of the year"........all the hope. Sure we'll make the playoffs this year and maybe we'll put it together for a nice little run.

The Spurs have been contending for years. They "Only" have 4 championships. They are not going to win one this year but the team is fun to watch, plays hard, they are always developiong players and the fans are behind them. Not starphuching for an impatient owner who blows millions on miss matched pieces.

So go ahead, blame it on MDA as we have on the last 6 coaches in the last 10 years.

Im sure if MDA leaves/not resigned we'll have some new hope to carry us thru the offseason.

After all, theres got to be 6 more coaches we think can make this work.

crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Melo kills this team. I dont care if he scores 30 a night---no D kills the flow of the game and is a prima dona we have another Marbury situation--hes not psycho like marbury but this will hurt us

yes, agreed. i don't know if he'd kill every team, but he does for this one. kills everything they're trying to do on both sides of the ball.

Melo wasn't the one guarding or allowing those layups to Tony Parker...

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Melo kills this team. I dont care if he scores 30 a night---no D kills the flow of the game and is a prima dona we have another Marbury situation--hes not psycho like marbury but this will hurt us

yes, agreed. i don't know if he'd kill every team, but he does for this one. kills everything they're trying to do on both sides of the ball.

Melo wasn't the one guarding or allowing those layups to Tony Parker...

no, but he was at the rim getting out of the way along with amar'e. you can't win with both.

there was a tim duncan layup in the third quarter where both amar'e and melo had time to look at each other, AND BOTH GET OUT OF DUNCAN'S way. it's not like duncan's gonna dunk on you at this point! or as if duncan has the agility to avoid a charge. jeffries would have taken a charge there, tyson would've blocked it. melo and amar'e get out of the way.

we can't win with two guys like that defending the front court.