Down goes Toney Douglas, thanks to KG literally sticking his foot out and tripping him.

Here he just chases Shumpert around hitting him; I think this is the definition of a "moving pick."

Not to mention the absolutely atrocious T called on Shumpert for having the audacity to dunk on KG and then look at him.

This is a classic "fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...can't foul me twice." JK that was the George W Bush version, but MDA has been fooled twice on the same nonsense. Either point it out to the refs before the play that KG is going to set an illegal screen (yesterday the ref was RIGHT IN FRONT OF MDA and looking with MDA at the screen, come on dude, open your yap and complain).

OR going into that situation tell whoever is getting the KG screen to just run through the guy and if anything foul KG. KG is like a school yard bully; guy is all talk and if you hit him in the jaw he won't do a thing. next time we need tyson or harrellson to hit KG at full speed and knock the guy over, otherwise the Celtics are gonna keep punking us.

We've been the better team now and they keep out-executing us late in the game. enough is enough.

He pulls it off in a way that it doesn't look intentional, like in the second video he makes it seem like it's a part of the hand-off motion.

When I set picks in rec league, I set them like KG. Never get a call.

It's smart play.

BigSm00th wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:I don't know if they're illegal as much as they're crafty.

He pulls it off in a way that it doesn't look intentional, like in the second video he makes it seem like it's a part of the hand-off motion.

When I set picks in rec league, I set them like KG. Never get a call.

It's smart play.

ok, but to let them cost us games over and over again is stupid. we know he's going to be extra physical and try to take a guy out of the play. ITS COMING...so its time for MDA & Co. to wake up and think of a way that we don't get abused by one of his picks the next time.

I agree that it's on the guys on the court to handle that. I think sending him to the ground would work against us. My choice would be to sell the contact more, so that if he sticks that leg out, you sell the contact there and go flying, it's really the only chance you have.

That little leg thing he does is very hard to spot by an official because it looks like a normal part of the screen.

Our guys have to sell it.

Nalod wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:I don't know if they're illegal as much as they're crafty.

He pulls it off in a way that it doesn't look intentional, like in the second video he makes it seem like it's a part of the hand-off motion.

When I set picks in rec league, I set them like KG. Never get a call.

It's smart play.

ok, but to let them cost us games over and over again is stupid. we know he's going to be extra physical and try to take a guy out of the play. ITS COMING...so its time for MDA & Co. to wake up and think of a way that we don't get abused by one of his picks the next time.

HOw do you do it? Go around you give them space to shoot, Fight thru it and you get called, flop in the 20 seconds and your not getting the call.

Its a home game, and KG is a HOF player.

Winning builds the cred.

I was not sitting courtside to hear MDA or not talking to the ref.

The hand off "Pick" looked good to me.

KG executes these things very well.

You can't call anything on the hand-off 'pick' because what can you call him for? That's his handing off motion! I mean we know that it's an exaggerated handing off motion, but you can't say that it's exaggerated, you can't make that call.

Andrew wrote:Off the current topic a bit here, but compare the screens Amare sets vs KG and I think you'll get a get understanding on why the PnR is not working with him.

Great point. Amare releases too early now on his picks. He is not even making any contact.

NYKBocker wrote:

Andrew wrote:Off the current topic a bit here, but compare the screens Amare sets vs KG and I think you'll get a get understanding on why the PnR is not working with him.

Great point. Amare releases too early now on his picks. He is not even making any contact.

I don't think Amare is actually setting picks on purpose- they just seems like screens...

In his case isn't it called slipping the screen, or a sped up screen and roll?

In this play, KG set 3 picks.

First pick: This is against Shumpert. KG commits 2 fouls on Shump. He moves his feet laterally then he gives a forearm to Shumps ear.

Second Pick: Follows Shumpert and sets another moving pick but this time driving forward to deliver another forearm to Shumps face for the takedown.

Third Pick: I actually thought this pick was legal. He handed off the ball to Pierce.

MS wrote:It's utterly embarrassing to not call the foul on that play. Every screen he sets he's moving into the player, pushing off, etc.

Someone really needs to put the bounty on this guy. He's dirty as they come.

KG is a sissy, I only hope it's a Knick that smashes this guy someday.

Kinda curious why we didn't foul Rondo, who shoots like 50% from the line...

There are many scenarios to point.

Say we do, then we are at the line. Go 1-1, now we up by 2.

Bottom line, they had to hit a 3 to tie. Team is coming back nice and we had momentum.

Celts getting old and we are deep.

Whats to argue? Knicks lost. MDA haters can come out again.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who says we foul him? Who says Rondo does not pass it to his back court mate Ray?

There are many scenarios to point.

Say we do, then we are at the line. Go 1-1, now we up by 2.

Bottom line, they had to hit a 3 to tie. Team is coming back nice and we had momentum.

Celts getting old and we are deep.

Whats to argue? Knicks lost. MDA haters can come out again.

MDA Haters?

MDA Defenders seem to think this was wrong as well. Objectivity can be seen by "SOME" defenders as well.

Has nothing to do with hate. Even Nixluva on the game thread (D'Antoni's staunchest supporter) called him out as well:

Nixluva - IMO none of this other crap matters. This team was up 3 with only seconds to play. You have to close that game out!!! You have to run the C's off the 3pt line!!! Dble everything out at the 3pt line and who cares if they hit a 2pt shot? Up 3 With time running down we have been hurt by the 3 ball and it's something this team has to do a better job defending.
The slow 3rd qtr bug also bit us again. This team has to get the starters to play with much more energy cuz they seem to play slow and it allows teams to go off in the 3rd qtr of games. MDA has to find a way to fix these issues. I blame MDA for this loss more than the players.