We are just under 62 million with J.R.'s 2.5 option, Jordons salary, Douglas (2 million) and Balkmans 1.7 million. (Boy we should have cut Bibby instead). If J.R. bolts maybe Douglas is back to his old form.

Thx,
EMS

Just a gut feeling but I suspect Baron and JR are gone. Fields resigns. Knicks resign Novak and Lin as well.

I really hope we could resign Baron, but it will be tough to see him finishing his career as a backup/bench type guy. I thought Bobby Jackson type roll would work and I hope it does. Will see

Even if Baron is good, what is the market for a guy thats inconsistant and needed 30 games on the DL at age 33 with a history?

He is good anywhere at the Vet minimum though!

I don't believe contracts can get restructured.

loweyecue wrote:You can only keep the total money the same but spread it out over one extra year. At least that's what I understood.

gunsnewing wrote:

loweyecue wrote:You can only keep the total money the same but spread it out over one extra year. At least that's what I understood.

exactly everyone overlooks the new wrinkle in the new cba which allows players to restructure similar to the nfl. They still get every penny but over a longer period of time. Im going out on the lin and predicting that Jr, Davis and Novak are brought back and Fields is let go because of the redundancy

I could see a couple smaller deals moved for picks or cap room- like Fields & TD, and Jerome Jordan.

Nalod wrote:Amare needs to spread that **** out then!

Good call.

Melo not a chance! La La wants that Gelt ASAP!

far vas nisht? Gelt iz gut.

I just don't see Amare or Carmelo agreeing to this.

earthmansurfer wrote:From what I can find it's true that players can just add another year on to their current deals and get the money over that much more time, there by reducing the yearly average by a substantial amount. Their team (Knicks) would be liable for that extra year if they leave or what not. It does seem like it can work then in that the player is not playing that extra year for free so to speak (if I understand things correctly). In other words you get paid over 4 years for 3 years of work, but that 4th year you can still sign a new contract.

For example:
Melo is owed 64.5 million over the next three years. Average = 21.5 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16 million. Next years salary is 19.5 million, it frees up 3.5 million.
Amare is owed 65 million over the next three years. Average = 21.7 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16.25 million. Next years salary is 20 million, it frees up 3.75 million.
Chandler is owed 42.2 million over the next three years. Average = 14 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 10.6 million. Next years salary is 13.6 million, it frees up 3 million.
So, if this is how it works we could free up 10.25 million for next year (not to mention trading other players for picks if need be).

Baron might not be going anywhere:

“For a good part of my career, I wasn’t having fun and I didn’t really enjoy the game and I wanted to enjoy the game again,” Davis said. “I figured if I played in this system that’s fit for my talents then I’ll be able to do that.”
Davis, who turns 33 in April, said he’s not at full strength yet. He also said he can’t really play more than 15 minutes at the moment.
“That was enough,” he said. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/davis_stars_as_backups_please_knicks_8GXdHQi5a8Ug1l2mdRFH3L#ixzz1nsmWUe3A

It would also mean that at the end of three years all three would leave if they just wanted more money. I can see only Tyson staying because he really wants to. Melo will leave if he is still balking at a high level, Amare probably won't have a big market for him by that time.

earthmansurfer wrote:
Melo is owed 64.5 million over the next three years. Average = 21.5 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16 million. Next years salary is 19.5 million, it frees up 3.5 million.
Amare is owed 65 million over the next three years. Average = 21.7 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16.25 million. Next years salary is 20 million, it frees up 3.75 million.
Chandler is owed 42.2 million over the next three years. Average = 14 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 10.6 million. Next years salary is 13.6 million, it frees up 3 million.
So, if this is how it works we could free up 10.25 million for next year (not to mention trading other players for picks if need be).

Baron might not be going anywhere:

The thing is if we re-structured the contracts, we'd be under the cap, therefore we'd lose the MLE, so really we'd only have about 5 mil extra- would the extra $5 mil be worth screwing our cap for an extra year?

For example- if BD knows we have no money, maybe he re-signs with us for the minimum, but if he knows, after signing Lin we have $5mil left, maybe he insists on that. Either way, 5 mil will not be enough to re-sign JR Smith, Novak and BD- it would either get you BD and Novak OR JR Smith. I don't think it's worth that extra year of cap clogging.

earthmansurfer wrote:From what I can find it's true that players can just add another year on to their current deals and get the money over that much more time, there by reducing the yearly average by a substantial amount. Their team (Knicks) would be liable for that extra year if they leave or what not. It does seem like it can work then in that the player is not playing that extra year for free so to speak (if I understand things correctly). In other words you get paid over 4 years for 3 years of work, but that 4th year you can still sign a new contract.

For example:
Melo is owed 64.5 million over the next three years. Average = 21.5 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16 million. Next years salary is 19.5 million, it frees up 3.5 million.
Amare is owed 65 million over the next three years. Average = 21.7 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 16.25 million. Next years salary is 20 million, it frees up 3.75 million.
Chandler is owed 42.2 million over the next three years. Average = 14 million. Over 4 years the yearly average would be 10.6 million. Next years salary is 13.6 million, it frees up 3 million.
So, if this is how it works we could free up 10.25 million for next year (not to mention trading other players for picks if need be).

Baron might not be going anywhere:

“For a good part of my career, I wasn’t having fun and I didn’t really enjoy the game and I wanted to enjoy the game again,” Davis said. “I figured if I played in this system that’s fit for my talents then I’ll be able to do that.”
Davis, who turns 33 in April, said he’s not at full strength yet. He also said he can’t really play more than 15 minutes at the moment.
“That was enough,” he said. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/davis_stars_as_backups_please_knicks_8GXdHQi5a8Ug1l2mdRFH3L#ixzz1nsmWUe3A

Is there a link you found that supports this part, "but that 4th year you can still sign a new contract."?