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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
CoolColJ wrote:----------- Maybe we need to hear from the CYO coach of Lin's 6th grade traveling team regarding Melo's chemistry and ISO problems. With a little commentary on D'Antoni's shortcomings and how to improve SSOL. Jeez, this is really getting to "the Decision" level of media insanity. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
Thanks for posting this. I found the comments from the Girls Basketball coach that worked with Lin on his game this summer was HIGHLY informative. Now it's clear that this kid was a diamond in the rough. Lin was just in need of a real opportunity and this was probably the best of all worlds for Lin. This team had no one and he was able to take full advantage of his chances. This coach did a great job with Jeremy and really got him ready for his big chance.
Lin is the real deal and we haven't even seen the best from him yet IMO. Lin can play a lot smarter and with fewer mistakes, which will eventually happen as he gains experience. Lin is stronger and more explosive and his skills are sharper than last year. I think that his summer work in combination with his D League stint which allowed him to catch on to what the system was about was a kind of perfect storm for Lin. I'm convinced that Lin would've won the starting job if he was here in training camp. There would've been no way to hide his talent. MDA was too distracted with the mess he had to start the season and with no practice how could he really judge Lin's game? Thank goodness this kid didn't stick in GS and Houston. Thank Goodness TD, Shump, Bibby and Baron weren't up to the task. Thank Goodness MDA actually liked Lin's talent in the 1st place even if he wasn't sure how good he really was. Everything worked out perfectly in an almost fairytale kind of way. |
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
Awesome video
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mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157 Alba Posts: 16 Joined: 5/3/2011 Member: #3553 |
nixluva wrote:Thank Goodness MDA actually liked Lin's talent in the 1st place even if he wasn't sure how good he really was. Everything worked out perfectly in an almost fairytale kind of way. What about Grunwald? Has he not done a GREAT job? |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
mrKnickShot wrote:nixluva wrote:Thank Goodness MDA actually liked Lin's talent in the 1st place even if he wasn't sure how good he really was. Everything worked out perfectly in an almost fairytale kind of way. Of course Glen has done a great job. I've said so in many other threads. I was speaking specifically about Lin and MDA, cuz MDA actually already liked Lin from the time they had him in for a pre draft workout and he made it clear to Walsh and Glen that he liked the kid and would welcome a chance to try and develop him. MDA has stated this in interviews. Lin wasn't just a random grab of an available PG. There are tons of guys that were out there, but few that had the kind of skills that Mike felt could be a good fit. |
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
This video shows highlights from Jeremy Lin's first game at the draft camp 2 years ago.
You can see he pretty much plays the same way as he does now. It's not just due to the "system" His vision and passing was already evident then. But now he's more explosive, faster and more polished from his off season work |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 40034 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
CoolColJ wrote:This video shows highlights from Jeremy Lin's first game at the draft camp 2 years ago. I get what you're saying about Lin, but I gotta say this video showed me nothing. All I see is bunch of mini-Steve Francises dribbling around in circles like it's an And1 tryout. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
We all know that a player has to have the talent to begin with, so no one is taking anything away from Lin. Guys like Duhon and Felton aren't as talented as Lin and thus didn't perform at the level Lin is, however the system did in fact boost those guys performance and it also exposed them too.
Lin has the actual skills and talent to really excel in this system and that's why he's been a sensation and a winner with this team, whereas he's had only sporadic success with other teams. For the 1st time in his NBA career he's being allowed to play and use all of his talents without limitations. Lin is no longer looking over his shoulder and can play with complete confidence. |
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
Article about Gary Payton working with Lin before the Summer League game
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203918304577241710317187398.html
"He's ****y," Gary Payton said. "The ****iness in him, it reminds me of myself. The way he puts his tongue out and laughs and smiles? That's a ****y arrogance, and that's the way he has to play—and the way he should play." |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 40034 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
CoolColJ wrote:Article about Gary Payton working with Lin before the Summer League game Hah! Good post. My favorite part: Payton said he and Lin still exchange text messages, but never truly went head-to-head on the court in their training sessions. "He basically just wanted to play me all the time," Payton said. "That was his dream. I told him: You're not ready to do that. I'm not going to give you the opportunity until you prove it." Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
more detailed stuff - outlines the stuff he did in Golden State and since then
he ain't 200lbs anymore - 212! He compared Lin to a stretched-out rubber band — flexible, but lacking that snap-back quality. The goal was to make him “stiffer,” through a training program of heavy weights and low repetition, in conjunction with a high-protein diet. With the added muscle, Lin pushed his weight to 212 pounds from 200, while increasing his vertical leap by 3.5 inches, Wagner said. The result is evident every time Lin barrels into the lane this season. |
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
Funny, too bad all this research wasn't available when the whole "Lin needs to bulk up" debate was raging...
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rvwink
Posts: 20412 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/3/2006 Member: #1145 |
I feel very strongly that the posts about possible racism against an Asian player, or Kobe's rant about firing the scouts on the teams that passed him by him, is baloney. First Jeremy Lin needed to learn the intricacies of the pick and role. He needed additional upper body strength to allow him to finish a higher percentage of his shots. (from a motor cycle to a Porche) He also needed to increase his vertical lift by 3 1/2 inches to help him finish at the basket. Finally he needed to improve his shooting from the outside to convince his defenders that they had to guard him more closely. That actually gives him an advantage over Rajon Rondo, who drives great but isn't a threat from deep.
The miracle of Jeremy Lin is that he combined both the necessary vision to see the floor, but also the work ethic and intelligence to keep working constructively in the right direction on his game. His desire to succeed, allowed him to finally make himself into a different player. (Toney Douglas also had the necessary work ethic, but unfortunately he didn't possess the necessary floor vision.) The other reason the Knicks managed to get him was the fortunate timing of his being put on waivers. If he was put on waivers during the shorpreseason, other teams might have been more interested. Also if there wasn't a dramatically shortened preseason, San Francisco probably would have had a much better opportunity observe all of the progress that Jeremy had made during the off season. Finally the Knicks got him because the quality of their bench was low enough back then, that it made sense to let someone go, to take a chance on Jeremy. Also fortunately, Jamal Crawford had earlier decided to go elsewhere. |
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skeng
Posts: 22090 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 10/27/2009 Member: #2959 Denmark |
![]() Legalize di NBA
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
rvwink wrote:I feel very strongly that the posts about possible racism against an Asian player, or Kobe's rant about firing the scouts on the teams that passed him by him, is baloney. First Jeremy Lin needed to learn the intricacies of the pick and role. He needed additional upper body strength to allow him to finish a higher percentage of his shots. (from a motor cycle to a Porche) He also needed to increase his vertical lift by 3 1/2 inches to help him finish at the basket. Finally he needed to improve his shooting from the outside to convince his defenders that they had to guard him more closely. That actually gives him an advantage over Rajon Rondo, who drives great but isn't a threat from deep. No one denies the limitations he had in his rookie season. The issue though is did he show enough promise that teams as a matter of logic should his previous teams have kept one of their fifteen roster spots for him and waited to see how he developed. His #s in limited playing time were not bad last year. Per 36 min, he averaged 10 points, 5 assists, 4 rbs, and 4 steals. |
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
Bonn1997 wrote:rvwink wrote:I feel very strongly that the posts about possible racism against an Asian player, or Kobe's rant about firing the scouts on the teams that passed him by him, is baloney. First Jeremy Lin needed to learn the intricacies of the pick and role. He needed additional upper body strength to allow him to finish a higher percentage of his shots. (from a motor cycle to a Porche) He also needed to increase his vertical lift by 3 1/2 inches to help him finish at the basket. Finally he needed to improve his shooting from the outside to convince his defenders that they had to guard him more closely. That actually gives him an advantage over Rajon Rondo, who drives great but isn't a threat from deep. The main reason for Lin success was.. the year of the Dragon. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
rvwink wrote: Knicks weren't the only team after him when he was waived by Golden State though - Lakers and Celtics were, and Houston off course, but only the team with the worst record gets him - Houston in this case. |
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
I just wanted to post this stuff in this thread
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AVERAGE SPEED ------- some numbers from http://thebamboxscore.com/2012/02/29/more-linsights/ ]Basic Athletic Measurement's blog. in progressThe speed protocol that BAM provides for both the NBA and Portsmouth is the ¾ court sprint (75 ft.). Additionally, with our timing gates, split times (data points) are captured, providing more detailed information. |
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CoolColJ
Posts: 20031 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 2/22/2012 Member: #3984 |
he added 6 inches to his running jump
http://www.jeremylin.net/2012/03/interview-with-jeremys-trainer-dr-phil.html Interview With Jeremy's Trainer, Dr. Phil Wagner |