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2/25/2004  10:04 PM
This game is really sad to watch, have to switch channels, looks that Nets finally lost a game, does that count for some good news?
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2/25/2004  10:04 PM
Van Horn sucked tonight in the Buck's win:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/boxscore/NBA_20040225_MIL@BOS
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2/25/2004  10:05 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by Rich:

Not boxing out on McDyess's second missed free throw is a reason to be cut from the freakin' roster.

...and that was Shandon who gave up on the box out. Possible 5 or point swing there.

I hate Anderson (well, his game).
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2/25/2004  10:08 PM
I thought one of the possesions late in the 2nd summed up the game.

Shandon and Penny pased the ball back and forth to eachother passing up wide open jumpers because both knew they were going to throw up bricks...then, finally passed it to Steph with the shot clock running down and two defenders around him.
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2/25/2004  10:09 PM
we changed the entire dynamics of the team--these moves--if they were to be made--shouldve been left for the offseason.

Ill just say we look small and slow--no different from the games we watched NJ dunk and lay up on us for 48 minutes.

and if Kt leaves at the end of this year---WOw we will be a high lottery pick team.


Im like who cares if we make the playoffs backing in? should a team that ebnds up 4-5 games under even be eligible for the playoffs? i dont think they should


ah we will get back off this road trip and we have the cellar of the east and then we can sing the praises of glory again were very good against the NBDL teams.
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2/25/2004  10:15 PM
Posted by Rich:

Van Horn sucked tonight in the Buck's win:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/boxscore/NBA_20040225_MIL@BOS

Point-wise yes, but look at assist and rebounds

PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
J. Smith F 6 1-2 0-0 0-0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 2
D. Mason F 43 8-13 0-1 5-5 1 5 1 1 1 3 3 21
B. Skinner C 21 3-7 0-0 2-4 0 7 0 0 0 0 4 8
D. Jones G 26 3-8 2-4 0-0 1 1 4 3 0 1 0 8
M. Redd G 38 8-18 0-3 10-11 1 6 1 1 0 1 1 26
T. Kukoc 28 6-9 4-5 2-2 1 4 3 1 1 1 3 18
E. Strickland 24 3-10 1-3 1-1 0 0 6 1 0 3 4 8
K VAN HORN 28 2-10 0-2 0-0 2 8 5 0 1 4 5 4
D. Gadzuric 12 3-4 0-0 0-0 1 3 0 0 0 0 4 6
D. Santiago 14 1-1 0-0 3-4 0 4 0 1 0 0 1 5
M. Haislip DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Totals 38-82 7-18 23-27 8 39 21 8 3 13 26 106
.463 .389 .852 Team Rebs: 7 Total To: 13(14 PTS)

4 TOs also
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2/25/2004  10:20 PM
Jeeeze...Shandon is terrible...the pass to Nazr when he wasn't looking...and then on the break he gives it to KT at the free throw line. Kurt made a good play on in and the Knicks converted, but that just wasn't a smart play.
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2/25/2004  10:36 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by Rich:

Van Horn sucked tonight in the Buck's win:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/boxscore/NBA_20040225_MIL@BOS

Point-wise yes, but look at assist and rebounds

PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
J. Smith F 6 1-2 0-0 0-0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 2
D. Mason F 43 8-13 0-1 5-5 1 5 1 1 1 3 3 21
B. Skinner C 21 3-7 0-0 2-4 0 7 0 0 0 0 4 8
D. Jones G 26 3-8 2-4 0-0 1 1 4 3 0 1 0 8
M. Redd G 38 8-18 0-3 10-11 1 6 1 1 0 1 1 26
T. Kukoc 28 6-9 4-5 2-2 1 4 3 1 1 1 3 18
E. Strickland 24 3-10 1-3 1-1 0 0 6 1 0 3 4 8
K VAN HORN 28 2-10 0-2 0-0 2 8 5 0 1 4 5 4
D. Gadzuric 12 3-4 0-0 0-0 1 3 0 0 0 0 4 6
D. Santiago 14 1-1 0-0 3-4 0 4 0 1 0 0 1 5
M. Haislip DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Totals 38-82 7-18 23-27 8 39 21 8 3 13 26 106
.463 .389 .852 Team Rebs: 7 Total To: 13(14 PTS)

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He rebounds better than TT. The assists are anomalous.

I'm not saying I love the deal. I'm just giving it more time.
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2/25/2004  11:04 PM
Mcdyess bad knee and all looks good tonight agains his old team. FW in Lenny's dog house with no explanation. These trades proves zeke is a used cars salesman... we run good for a little while and turn out to be a "lemon"
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2/25/2004  11:06 PM
Posted by playa2:

Mcdyess bad knee and all looks good tonight agains his old team. FW in Lenny's dog house with no explanation. These trades proves zeke is a used cars salesman... we run good for a little while and turn out to be a "lemon"

McDyess looked like he never will be the same IMO....Fwill must be in the dog house. Dermarr is earning his playing time right now.
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2/25/2004  11:07 PM
Demarr Johnson moves like he can be a star if his shot falls with consistency.

McDyess still runs with a limp.
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2/25/2004  11:11 PM
shandon anderson sucks
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2/25/2004  11:14 PM
Wow I was pretty close with my final score prediction. Only I had it the other way around!

What a gutless team this is! I don't get Lenny playing Deke and Nazr wasn't working to well but I much rather see them then KT at center. This blows.....what a joke this team has become! The only positive was Demarr. I swear he better start over Anderson. We need to shake it up. I don't know what these guys see in anderson. He's the worst offensive guard in the history of the nba and he can't play defense! Ughhhhh I'm so pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

IMO this game will definitely be a W for us, which should start a streak of wins.

GO KNICKS! I hope TT makes a pattern out of the production he put forth last night.

THESE KIND OF POST, gets ripped up in here. Stop the madness!
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2/25/2004  11:16 PM
I suppose we do have to step back and remember that Houston and TT didn't play. Shandon still doesn't deserve any more minutes than Dermarr...same with Penny although he did play better at the end.
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2/25/2004  11:21 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by playa2:

Mcdyess bad knee and all looks good tonight agains his old team. FW in Lenny's dog house with no explanation. These trades proves zeke is a used cars salesman... we run good for a little while and turn out to be a "lemon"

McDyess looked like he never will be the same IMO....Fwill must be in the dog house. Dermarr is earning his playing time right now.



Mcdyess was getting sic wit it DUNKING on us cmon NY.
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2/25/2004  11:23 PM
McDyess dunked on a wide open lane. Thats like saying Sweetney was getting sick dunking on Phoenix.
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2/25/2004  11:24 PM
It's like you are watching a different game. He is a shell of his former self.
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2/25/2004  11:25 PM
Dice played about as well as Sweetney did for the Knicks.
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2/25/2004  11:26 PM
We were out-rebounded 27-58!!!!!!!!!!!

KT only grabbed 6rebs in 40min! and he lead us in rebounding! No wonder this was so hard to watch!
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