In any other System, what does Lin drop? Does he drop 25/8?

If a coach told Jeremy to limit turnovers and stop getting caught in the lane (I have to give credit to rvwink for first pointing this out), then he would not find as many opportunities to score and make great assist passes that he has been doing. So I have an answer that many NBA teams are looking for: "How do you stop Jeremy Lin?"

Answer: Get his coach to tell him to stop driving into lanes and to immediately cut his turnovers in half.

MDA was DYING to have a PG like Lin, but it's hard to know if he was capable cuz Lin came here late and there was no time to really see him in game situations and knowing what he's doing. Most of the time Lin played in games and had to wing it and in that situation you can imagine that Lin looked bad at times. Rushing into the lane with no clear purpose and often turning it over. He also looked promising at times, but it must've been hard for any coach to really know what was inside Lin in those circumstances. Then add to it that he kept going to teams that had PG's. This is where Lin belongs!!!

If you don't sign MDA, then trade Lin whose value and contract status would be a great addition to most teams.

Lin for John Wall works great. Wall would fit right in with Dolans starphuch mentality. Winning games is secondary.

Now maybe a PG type such as Nash or Lin or Paul or any good PG has better numbers in MDA's system but maybe Carmelo's numbers get hurt from this system and would be better in another system. It all evens out in the end. You just need a good coach and a good system that allows the sum of its parts to excel. A system needs to adjust to the players running it as well. I would like to see MDA figure this sh1t with Melo out and make it work.

fishmike wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:So a good point guard can only do well in an MDA system? Or is he not good by himself and MDA makes him good? A little of both? I guess all previous coaches/current coaches with good PG play - its all the player?

Now maybe a PG type such as Nash or Lin or Paul or any good PG has better numbers in MDA's system but maybe Carmelo's numbers get hurt from this system and would be better in another system. It all evens out in the end. You just need a good coach and a good system that allows the sum of its parts to excel. A system needs to adjust to the players running it as well. I would like to see MDA figure this sh1t with Melo out and make it work.

answer your own questions. Was Felton a good PG? Was he better or worse w/ MDA? Was Duhon a good pg? Was he better or worse with MDA? Was Nash a good PG? Was he better or worse w/ MDA?

First answers may vary, but the 2nd is always YES.

MDA lets PGs work through mistakes. Its a system that rewards aggressive PG play over volume. The #s prove it nicely.

Bottom line, give MDA some talent a good PG and the wins start to add up.

Dont be suprised is Knicks have best winning % in the league with Lin as a starter.

First, I would be very surprised if the knicks have the best winning % in the league with Lin as a starter - But extremely satisfied

I just take offense to the thought that Lin would not do well with another coach. His numbers might not be as juiced but I still think he is a good player in his own right. He is no Duhon (v1 or v2) nor is he Felton. He is more the Nash TYPE and Nash would have excelled with any coach because he was a GREAT player. Did he excel even more because of MDA's system? Possibly.

The system is very geared to the PG dominating the ball so it is crucial to have the right type of PG. And being that so much of the offense runs through the PG, the numbers will be inflated.

Now, what works to the PG's advantage looks like a detriment to a player like Melo. This is not a Nash Stat system. And Melo is not Joe Johnson. He is a top 5 scorer in this league and we need to find away to bend the sacred system to allow both Lin and Melo to find a comfort zone. I am not saying that this won't happen - I would just like to see the adjustment. By Everyone.

And yes. I do think MDA is pissed off about not getting an extension or almost being fired and he is playing the crappy media game. We need him to concentrate more on defending the 3 ball then playing with the media / Dolan / Melo.

I give him and the coaching staff (and Tyson) credit for playing much better D than the awful D he gave us last year.

People harp on how close Lin was to being let go again, but he was here instead of other PG's due to his raw skills which fit what MDA wants to do. I'm positive that if Lin was here in camp that he would've beaten out the other guards for the starting spot. With no camp and no practice it was hard to know just how good Lin actually was. Now that is all history cuz Lin is here and thriving.

umynot wrote:

nixluva wrote:It's a widely accepted fact that MDA is a PG's best friend. MDA thinks like a PG and created his system from that viewpoint, so it's right to assume that Lin is in the perfect place for his talents to really be fully maximized. You can only imagine how good a smart PG can get in this system once he masters it and knows his teammates.

MDA was DYING to have a PG like Lin, but it's hard to know if he was capable cuz Lin came here late and there was no time to really see him in game situations and knowing what he's doing. Most of the time Lin played in games and had to wing it and in that situation you can imagine that Lin looked bad at times. Rushing into the lane with no clear purpose and often turning it over. He also looked promising at times, but it must've been hard for any coach to really know what was inside Lin in those circumstances. Then add to it that he kept going to teams that had PG's. This is where Lin belongs!!!

This is perfectly said nix.

I believe Lin could play on the Heat. OKC. Lakers. Celtics.

I add his name to a lot of teams and see him fitting in just fine.

I also agree tho that applies a perfect open type game for Lin.
But I don't think coach has used him perfect tho.

I could see Pop using him better. Or maybe Doc Rivers

All that being said. God sent him to us!

And I for one am more then thankful!

I'm sure is thankful as well.

Pop or Doc would have Lin putting up better numbers and efficiency than what Lin has been getting since he's been getting significant minutes??? I doubt that highly. I can't imagine that this kid could perform better in his 1st 10 starts, which have set records for any player since the NBA/ABA merger. Literally NO PLAYER has performed better at any time during this modern NBA era.