On was graphic and one was in the context of a question.

Are both offensive?

I mean for ESPN not you Nalod

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

Truthfully that would make more sense as I find it hard to believe that someone would be that stupid. It makes more sense that it was unintentional, but at the same time how do you not correlate the 2 when putting up the headline? If your in the media you damn sure should know what the term chink means and you should be aware Lin's ethnicity especially if you are ESPN the world wide leader in sports.

Isn't there someone who overseas this type of stuff to maybe say that its a bad idea?

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

In their "right mind" are the key words here. No way this is racially based but of course everyone is going to lose their damn minds over it. Bet Lin isn't upset over it.

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

Perhaps when bought to attention (the more that looked at it the more thought.......) it got taken down.

Could it be that it was both insensitive and innocent at the same time?

By that, a younger generation (figure at the night desk) who grew up with Yao Ming as an allstar player and not as effected by racial stereotypes not thinking "chink in the armor" was at all offensive? If so, isn't that progress?

On the other hand we recently had a guy offended thinking it was offensive to Asian ancestry that the "germans bombed pearl harbor"!

Do we look for racial differences to enhance our own moral standing?

If he was Greek and we said "turnovers are his Achilles heel" would that be offensive? (I understand the "C" word is far worse)

Or if he was Jewish, and his turnovers are down, "LinBergs stingy turning over the ball now!" an offensive statement?

Now if it was "LinBergs stingy like a KIKE with the ball these days" is a direct use of a bad word that only has one meaning.

Just conversing here fellas. Im not Asian nor my does my moral compass needing any validation. Talking points for a saturday morning.

Chink
- a crack, cleft, or fissure: a chink in a wall.

- a narrow opening: a chink between two buildings.

Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chink

Still insensitive but I don't think it was intentional.

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izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

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izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

Why, if Im not black then my opinion about what is offensive or not doesnt matter? If Im a white guy, then somehow I just cant know about what is an appropriate use of a word or not?

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izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

Why, if Im not black then my opinion about what is offensive or not doesnt matter? If Im a white guy, then somehow I just cant know about what is an appropriate use of a word or not?

ok i think you answered my question.

Are you black? No. So what makes you think that youre opinion about what is offensive to blacks is better than mine?