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AnubisADL
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2/12/2012  5:09 PM
A bad season for Felton just got worse Saturday. The Trail Blazers starting point guard went 4 for 17 and had more turnovers (three) than assists (two) in 39 minutes of play. He also missed his only free throw, which happened to come in a tie game in the second overtime, adding to his -- and the team's -- growing list of late-game miscues that have limited the Blazers to a 15-13 record.

Felton not only is shooting poorly -- 37.3 percent from the field and 20 percent from three-point range -- but he has lost himself. He is no longer that go-go-go point guard we saw early in the season, the one who pushed the pace even off other team's makes. He is no longer that point guard who penetrates and finds someone for a layup. All he does is drift around the three-point arc, making the mundane perimeter pass, often without testing the defense.

Of course, part of his lack of penetration is because teams are giving him no respect, sagging into the lane to help on big men while daring him to take an outside shot. He took a three-pointer at a key moment in the fourth quarter at Utah in which no Jazz defender was within 10 feet of him. He missed it.

His turnovers are alarming not so much in their volume but in the manner of how they are being committed. Turnovers made while attacking and pushing the envelope come with the territory. Ask Steve Nash and Deron Williams, who are routinely among the league leaders. But Felton's turnovers are coming off sloppy perimeter passes, or mindless dribbling forays. On Friday in New Orleans, he twice failed miserably while trying to split a trap, in fact making the trap more effective by dribbling into it.

But what is most alarming is that Felton is doing nothing to create shots for his teammates. You wonder why the Blazers' offense is so stagnant? It's because Felton isn't beating his man off the dribble, or even trying to. He has been reduced to a simple perimeter passer.

McMillan is cautious of benching Felton for fear that it will strip the veteran of whatever confidence he has. And the coach is not exactly convinced there is a clear improvement waiting in the wings: Jamal Crawford has also struggled with his shot and turnovers, and rookie Nolan Smith has been tentative in most of his limited minutes.

But at the same time, the Blazers coach can sense a season is slipping away. He gave himself 20 games, he said, to allow his players to work out their kinks, be it lack of conditioning, lack of rhythm, or getting used to new teammates.

The Blazers have played 28 of their 66 games.

"It's time the play becomes better," McMillan said Saturday.

So will he consider taking Felton out of the starting lineup in favor of Crawford?

"I have to look at it," McMillan said.

How much more McMillan needs to see before making a change, I don't know.

McMillan has already started to trend toward featuring Crawford at point guard. For the past week or so, he has used the tandem together, but has ordered Crawford to handle the ball and initiate the offense. Crawford has had some of his best performances in this role, primarily at New Orleans, when he had 31 points and eight assists. He also had 21 and six against Houston and eight assists against Denver. What's more, Crawford is creating opportunities and shots for his teammates, and thereby is a threat. Yeah, he is still taking -- and missing -- a lot of shots. But this team is more dangerous when he has the ball than when Felton does.

Entering Saturday's game, Felton was averaging 33 minutes per game, Crawford 26. Those should be reversed. McMillan can't keep rewarding Felton with minutes. He has to earn them. A good start would be for Felton to get back to pushing the pace, to at least try to beat his man off the dribble. To get back to being himself.

Because right now, Felton is showing little, if any, leadership. It's not that he is a bad teammate. He cheers from the bench and I think generally supports his teammates. But he has incredibly negative body language on the court, whining to the officials, throwing his hands up in the air when a teammate doesn't pass to him -- like Saturday when Nicolas Batum didn't see him cut through the lane on a inbounds play -- and just generally looking dour.

In the locker room, he has become wary of certain media -- the ones who have pointed out his flaws -- while aligning himself with those who have ignored his play. I approached him after Saturday's game, and he said he didn't know why I would want to talk to him.

I asked him where his mind was at.

"What kind of question is that?" he scoffed.

I told him I wondered if he had lost his confidence.

"Why wouldn't I have it? I shot 17 shots tonight, of course I have my confidence," Felton said. "I ain't going to stop. Shots just didn't fall tonight. Doesn't mean I'm not going to take them. If it's in the offense, I've got to take them. Hey, I'm struggling, having a struggling season so far, but hey, whatever."


Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2012/02/blazers_insider_clock_runs_out_on_felton.html

Dude just doesn't get it. probably why Denver traded him.

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2/12/2012  5:11 PM
Hope they trade him back to us for Bibby/TD, kid can ball here.
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2/12/2012  5:26 PM
hell i would take felton back in a heartbeat. imagine lin and felton who was great is d'antoni's system. Also now with baron we dont have to worry about him having to do too much since he can be a good backup to lin
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2/12/2012  5:30 PM
You have to wonder how much of his problems are because he was traded twice in a very short amount of time.
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2/12/2012  5:38 PM
Dude isnt that good. We can probably get him back this summer for the full MLE if we wanted.
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2/12/2012  5:47 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Dude isnt that good. We can probably get him back this summer for the full MLE if we wanted.

No thanks. Dude playing like horse sht in a contract year?

Conditioning problems. Jumpshotless. Hell no.

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2/12/2012  6:31 PM
I miss Wilson
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2/12/2012  6:40 PM
Ill take him for a discount and have him and Lin sharing duties.
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2/12/2012  6:59 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Dude isnt that good. We can probably get him back this summer for the full MLE if we wanted.

If he's just desperate for the contract, maybe. But, he took it pretty personal when we traded him. Not sure he wants to come back.


loweyecue wrote:I miss Wilson

If Lin keeps up his play, that has to be target #1 this summer. (Nash was my target pre-Lin).

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2/12/2012  9:51 PM
Would be great to get him back. He seemed like he belonged here. Pick and roll baby!
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2/12/2012  10:14 PM
JCrusher wrote:hell i would take felton back in a heartbeat. imagine lin and felton who was great is d'antoni's system. Also now with baron we dont have to worry about him having to do too much since he can be a good backup to lin

If you recall, he HATED being the backup PG in Denver, especially to the Ty Lawson, another UNC alum. I don't know how he would adjust to that situation here.

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2/12/2012  10:46 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
JCrusher wrote:hell i would take felton back in a heartbeat. imagine lin and felton who was great is d'antoni's system. Also now with baron we dont have to worry about him having to do too much since he can be a good backup to lin

If you recall, he HATED being the backup PG in Denver, especially to the Ty Lawson, another UNC alum. I don't know how he would adjust to that situation here.

maybe but he hated being in denver and loved new york. also like dantoni so mmaybe he woudn't mind
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2/12/2012  11:05 PM
I was glad when we traded him. Couldn't run the P&R and was looking for his shot too much.
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2/13/2012  11:53 AM
I think his problems are due to him being overweight and out of shape- he started off okay for the Blazers, but as the season has gone on with all of the games, he's tired- I think that's why he's hovering round the 3 point line. Felton was never that good of a PG though- he played his best with us, but even then he got off to a slow start, had a hot spell, then started to decline.

I would think twice about getting him, even for the MLE and especially if we didn't have D'Antoni as coach. He is getting plumper each year, he tends to work himself into shape in the pre-season too- to me that indicates he'll have a shortened career. If you can't show up for a contract year in shape- even with a lockout, that sets of warning bells for me.

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2/13/2012  2:08 PM
Maybe Duhon is available too.
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2/13/2012  2:38 PM
Felton was made to be with MDA. Felton did ok with Larry Brown, but not like he did with us.

I don't know the system Portland uses but lets be real, Felton was great in NY and ok elsewhere.

I always thought Ray was just a great back up pg and can go hard about 15-20 min a game. I thought his contract was fair.

Can't blame a guy who was starting in NYC after signing here, then gets cast off as cap fodder in a bull**** trade to end up being a back up to an "Underclassman". Denver was a class act trading him to a good team he could start for.

Its not like we "dumpted him" nor would elevate any knick status by him not playing well elsewhere. Im sure we all feel better if Gallo and Mozzy and the rest don't do as well but there are way too many variables to go there. I wish most former players well. Guys that were in the rotation.

We played minny. Darko is on injured reserve but AR is being dumped on the bench the last 5 games and is slipping out of the rotation fast.

Racking up some DNP's the last 5 games. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph

If Felton traded created the opportunity for Lin, then I can live with that.

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2/13/2012  2:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/13/2012  2:54 PM
Nalod wrote:Felton was made to be with MDA. Felton did ok with Larry Brown, but not like he did with us.

I don't know the system Portland uses but lets be real, Felton was great in NY and ok elsewhere.

I always thought Ray was just a great back up pg and can go hard about 15-20 min a game. I thought his contract was fair.

Can't blame a guy who was starting in NYC after signing here, then gets cast off as cap fodder in a bull**** trade to end up being a back up to an "Underclassman". Denver was a class act trading him to a good team he could start for.

Its not like we "dumpted him" nor would elevate any knick status by him not playing well elsewhere. Im sure we all feel better if Gallo and Mozzy and the rest don't do as well but there are way too many variables to go there. I wish most former players well. Guys that were in the rotation.

We played minny. Darko is on injured reserve but AR is being dumped on the bench the last 5 games and is slipping out of the rotation fast.

Racking up some DNP's the last 5 games. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph

If Felton traded created the opportunity for Lin, then I can live with that.

It really is (L)incredible how much had to happen for Lin to wind up here and get the opportunity he's gotten. Just have to take a deep breath and thank a higher power (God, Allah, the wishing fountain at my local mall) everything wound up the way it did.

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2/13/2012  3:06 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Felton was made to be with MDA. Felton did ok with Larry Brown, but not like he did with us.

I don't know the system Portland uses but lets be real, Felton was great in NY and ok elsewhere.

I always thought Ray was just a great back up pg and can go hard about 15-20 min a game. I thought his contract was fair.

Can't blame a guy who was starting in NYC after signing here, then gets cast off as cap fodder in a bull**** trade to end up being a back up to an "Underclassman". Denver was a class act trading him to a good team he could start for.

Its not like we "dumpted him" nor would elevate any knick status by him not playing well elsewhere. Im sure we all feel better if Gallo and Mozzy and the rest don't do as well but there are way too many variables to go there. I wish most former players well. Guys that were in the rotation.

We played minny. Darko is on injured reserve but AR is being dumped on the bench the last 5 games and is slipping out of the rotation fast.

Racking up some DNP's the last 5 games. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph

If Felton traded created the opportunity for Lin, then I can live with that.

It really is (L)incredible how much had to happen for Lin to wind up here and get the opportunity he's gotten. Just have to take a deep breath and thank a higher power (God, Allah, the wishing fountain at my local mall) everything wound up the way it did.

NO doubt. It happens.

For years we had no room for yoot or contract space to create opportunity. This is what "rebuilding" usually looks like.

Rautins did not pan out but Fields was a steal. Mozzy was a free agent and could have been a bust. We took some chances.

We thougth highly of Lin enough to take a look.

Good fortune shines on other teams and why not us?

I pray for his ACL to hold!

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2/14/2012  2:43 PM
Raymond starting bricking shots here b4 left
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2/14/2012  2:49 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Raymond starting bricking shots here b4 left

Thats true but most will tell you it was the trade rumors that sent that team into a tailspin before the trade. So im not sure if it was the trade rumors or the honeymoon ending with Felton the same way it did with Duhon. His play and weight issues this year leads me to the latter

Glad we dumped Raymond Felton

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