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colombian0725
Posts: 20632 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 12/30/2011 Member: #3795 |
![]() Tony and value? LOL we would be lucky to get a bag of peanuts for him...
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses,
I have been thinking, analyzing, and retracking what the difference was last year vs our horrible play this year. Last year, AFTER the Melo deal, even though we loss some games we shouldn't have, especially to Cleveland. We beat Miami and a couple tough teams, while we didn't run SSOL. The effort was there last year and even this year, but we have loss confidence in ourselves, individually, and as a team, especially at home. So may I ask you what is the difference this year? 1) Melo may have been playing on adrenaline, on a high, and felt relieved and good about himself. 2) Amare was still feeling good about himself and not long before the trade, received MVP chants and consideration, turning this franchise around. 3) Billups might not have been a facilitating, PnR PG or capable defend quicker guards. 4) This year, Amare, is a step slower, but no longer has the spacing needed to create his own shots. With Tyson Chandler taking up a lot room and his unwillingness to be a free throw distance threat. Creating more mismatches, while starting off with an advantage to begin with. Playing the PnR at the Center with Melo, Billups/TD at the PG/SG, with Shawne WIlliams and Walker being spot up shooters to spread the floor. 5) Amare's defense, NO ONE expects him to be able to guard a Center, but they didn't ALWAYS finish on him either. Regardless, it was more or less expected vs this year he is EXPOSED, playing the PF with his HORRIBLE DEFENSE. He does not box out, fight for position, and doesn't help many times, relying on Tyson Chandler to do the shot blocking. But if Tyson Chandler leaves his man to block the shot, he loses position for the RB, even if he deflects the shot, and having Amare not fight for rebounds HURTS. Everyone in the league knows Tyson Chandler is a good rebounder and will try to grab the offensive RB, so they always put a body on him, making it tougher for him. Also putting a body on Amare, knowing he won't give much effort to fight for it. 6) Melo actually moves the ball much more and better this year up until this bad streak, where he lost all faith in his team mates. With Fields inability to hit the wide open corner 3s, TD constantly being predictable, and unable to find his shot with Bibby majority of the plays. How many times, have we seen Melo give up the ball early, only to receive it back, with 7 seconds or less, to get his shot off, further away from his comfort zone. 7) TD and Shawne Williams instantly became unexpected heroes, to go with Billups, Melo, and Amare. Since everyone was hitting their shot, it opened up the game for TD 8) Turiaf, AC, JJ, Shawne Williams and Shelden Williams played okay to good defense at times. While Amare was the mismatch on center, we would occasionally be able to play the passing lanes enough so our opponents to think twice about it. Turiaf, JJ, Shelden Williams, and Shawne Williams vs this year Amare playing the DEF on PF 9) Offense was focused more last year, while he were clicking, and we exploited the mismatches when Shawne Williams or Melo played the PF to space the floor. 10) The schedule, doesn't allow our coaching to correctly analyze and coach/teach with practice. Yes, PRACTICE, its very important. 11) Even when Baron Davis comes back, in the end, we will still need to be able to hit the 3point shot, and spread the floor. We are clearly missing a PG but also a forward that Shawne Williams provided, especially with his 3point shot. Jort's is a Center, he isn't a PF, he will also have the become a legit post presence for us. I hope I make sense and we can get it together, because we won't be getting any good value, and it will hurt our players confidence even more with trade rumors now. |
mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157 Alba Posts: 16 Joined: 5/3/2011 Member: #3553 |
![]() colombian0725 wrote:Tony and value? LOL we would be lucky to get a bag of peanuts for him... Peanuts don't take stupid / ill advised shots so that is not a bad trade |
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() RonRon wrote:Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses, do I make any sense? I know I write super long threats/posts, but once I start typing, I have trouble stopping...LOL |
DJMUSIC
Posts: 22906 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/30/2007 Member: #1283 |
![]() RonRon wrote:Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses, Listen I hear ya But all these issues even the practice (lack of) cause of NBA strikes not only affects Knicks WHOLE league had to go thru it, Point is its Excuses with a D'Antoni team FULL of it and FULL of crap. Anytime you can struggle vs teams like Cavaliers (last 2 yrs) and Milw Bucks and bunch of bad teams and this season There is notion here Team is mentally SOFT and not TOUGH enough when NBA teams weak and elite hit knicks in chin However For teams like Bucks to have B.Jennings come in, ex Knick Al Harrington (nuggets) come in your floor gym mock your butt Harrington's Nuggets only real Good Team but they (knicks) played better. They need to give fans more to cheer about! We havent seen that yet at 6 - 10 record Turntable Musiclover & Mix-Master-ologist
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DJMUSIC
Posts: 22906 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/30/2007 Member: #1283 |
![]() RonRon wrote:RonRon wrote:Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses, You make good pts again But D'Antoni had some say in this team recently with departures of Donnie Walsh and even when Donnie was here. To me to lose Billups (I like Chandler) but to go in NBA season with PGs, Shumpert,Toney D, Bibby and last sec. signing of Baron Davis To me to go in NBA season for D'Antoni to boast after celtic win opening day "We have rivalry" and teams need to be aware of Knicks For Knicks to not even have backup PFs or Forwards to rookies such as Harrellson, and newbies on Knicks is absurd. We'll see what Knicks do at trade deadline to improve the roster bench roles/players Turntable Musiclover & Mix-Master-ologist
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() Lin, Jordan, Balkster and Novak just might play 2nite
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() Knicks plan to add to the bench before the end of this season. All the panic and bashing of the team has been a bit premature. Teams go thru ups and downs over the course of a season. It's not realistic to think this team wouldn't play any better than it has shown in the losing streak. Sometimes teams struggle out of the gate, but that doesn't mean it's the permanent condition of the team.
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mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157 Alba Posts: 16 Joined: 5/3/2011 Member: #3553 |
![]() nixluva wrote:Knicks plan to add to the bench before the end of this season. All the panic and bashing of the team has been a bit premature. Teams go thru ups and downs over the course of a season. It's not realistic to think this team wouldn't play any better than it has shown in the losing streak. Sometimes teams struggle out of the gate, but that doesn't mean it's the permanent condition of the team. isn't that what fans do? this is not Gary Indiana |
arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
![]() RonRon wrote:Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses, Man... this a one biiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggg post. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157 Alba Posts: 16 Joined: 5/3/2011 Member: #3553 |
![]() arkrud wrote:RonRon wrote:Instead of just bashing the team and pointing out our weaknesses, Be honest, did you read it? My A.D.D kicked in after the first paragraph |