As far as moves go, Baron Davis comes back and that gives us a 5th quality player. I would really hope we have a good shot to sign Kenyon Martin in March from the room exception. He is the perfect big man off the bench and that gives us a 6th strong player. We will have to continue to monitor Douglas and Fields, but if nothing changes, we probably want to look at trading them to a young team looking to shake things up on their bench like us. Maybe for OJ Mayo or Luke Ridnour and a pick or something like that. Even if we don't get a PG back for Douglas, we still have enough depth at the PG with Davis, Bibby, and Shumpert playing some minutes. At this point in time that will be the best option for us. Once we reach the offseason, there will be plenty of veteran options to add that will provide the depth we don't have right now. But for this season here is the type of rotation we would be looking at which would help.

C Chandler/Harrellson
PF Stoudemire/Martin
SF Anthony/Walker
SG Shumpert/Mayo
PG Davis/Bibby

C Chandler, whose minutes need to be monitored/ Jeffries/ Jerome Jordan in an emergency
F Stoudemire, who needs to stop attempting threes/ Harrellson
F Carmelo Anthony, whose body is sending troubling signals/ tbd (Steve Novak is no Shawne Williams and Bill Walker does not get inside enough)
G Fields/ open audition for a 6'7 defender who can be trusted (see below)
G Shumpert (cramp issues)/ the elder Mike Bibby (knee pain)/ tbd
(Toney Douglas, sinking fast; Jeremy Lin, a longshot; Baron Davis, still in a nice suit)

I miss Derrick Brown, Roger Mason Jr and Anthony Carter

Knicks would start: Baron, Fields, Melo, Amear, Chandler
and bring off the bench: Shumpert, Douglas, Jeffries, Harrelson

Looking at the curent roster I think thats our best 9.

Come crunch time I see Baron and Shumpert finishing together.

misterearl wrote:The bench only scored three points last night. For a season where it feels you are playing every night, and injuries WILL hapen, that is a bid sign. Toney Douglas had two points in 13 minutes. Josh Harrellson only had one in 19 minutes. Going into tonight, the Knicks' subs were only averaging 19.7 points - worst in the league.

As Amar'e and Carmelo are already showing signs of wear, tear and fatigue, it is IMPERATIVE the Knicks rethink the reserves... or change how they are deployed. Baron Davis is not walking through the door anytime soon and Wilson Chandler is a thousand miles away.

What moves can be made, if any?

I miss Extra E

Cause Bibby was hurt...Douglas has regressed and Walker is useless. Too bad we cant exchange Billy for Shawn and get that corner 3going again. Not sure why Novak hasn't been able to fill that role.

misterearl wrote:

fishmike wrote:orginally I thought Fields would go to the bench, but now I think its Shumpert. I think Fields will play better with Baron Davis because there will be more pure ball movement and Fields still gets other good stats when he's not scoring (6 rebs, 5 assists, last night).

Knicks would start: Baron, Fields, Melo, Amear, Chandler
and bring off the bench: Shumpert, Douglas, Jeffries, Harrelson

Looking at the curent roster I think thats our best 9.

Come crunch time I see Baron and Shumpert finishing together.

fishmike - you are still playing the fantasy game. Carmelo and Amar'e are screaming for help. Toney Douglas' time in New York is ticking down faster than Marisa Tomei's biological clock in "My Cousin Vinny."

Baron Davis may not play a game this season. There are no guarantees.

The best thing the Knicks can do is scour the globe for a yoot who can put the ball in the basket.

Baron Davis is due back end of January.

misterearl wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

misterearl wrote:

fishmike wrote:orginally I thought Fields would go to the bench, but now I think its Shumpert. I think Fields will play better with Baron Davis because there will be more pure ball movement and Fields still gets other good stats when he's not scoring (6 rebs, 5 assists, last night).

Knicks would start: Baron, Fields, Melo, Amear, Chandler
and bring off the bench: Shumpert, Douglas, Jeffries, Harrelson

Looking at the curent roster I think thats our best 9.

Come crunch time I see Baron and Shumpert finishing together.

fishmike - you are still playing the fantasy game. Carmelo and Amar'e are screaming for help. Toney Douglas' time in New York is ticking down faster than Marisa Tomei's biological clock in "My Cousin Vinny."

Baron Davis may not play a game this season. There are no guarantees.

The best thing the Knicks can do is scour the globe for a yoot who can put the ball in the basket.

Baron Davis is due back end of January.

Only Baron Davis knows when he will be back and so far his back ain't back.

"Anthony picked up his fifth foul with 5:30 left, but D’Antoni elected to leave him in the game, because “I just didn’t feel like anybody else could produce any points,” (D'Antoni) said.

We need someone who can produce points. Waiting for Baron Davis is not a solution.

Baron may not play a game this season? I mean, thats the strongest argument you come up with? Boom Dizzle will add some depth in the guard rotation. They need a super 6th. I think Gilbert Arenas is still available, which I am not sold on, but might make sense. We really need a scoring big off the bench though.

BTW, maybe Gallo will play himself down into the Mid Level exception for next year :)

I think Douglas is hurt. He is just brittle, and if you can still get a 2nd round pick for him, I say do it.

This is also on the coach, I think- because like in Miami, you end up with the role players waiting for the stars to do everything, so they just hang back, and then the stars end up forcing the action.

You move Amare to the bench, you send a message to everyone - they need to step up their games. Its not a slight on Amare, or shouldn't be construed that way.

misterearl wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

misterearl wrote:

fishmike wrote:orginally I thought Fields would go to the bench, but now I think its Shumpert. I think Fields will play better with Baron Davis because there will be more pure ball movement and Fields still gets other good stats when he's not scoring (6 rebs, 5 assists, last night).

Knicks would start: Baron, Fields, Melo, Amear, Chandler
and bring off the bench: Shumpert, Douglas, Jeffries, Harrelson

Looking at the curent roster I think thats our best 9.

Come crunch time I see Baron and Shumpert finishing together.

fishmike - you are still playing the fantasy game. Carmelo and Amar'e are screaming for help. Toney Douglas' time in New York is ticking down faster than Marisa Tomei's biological clock in "My Cousin Vinny."

Baron Davis may not play a game this season. There are no guarantees.

The best thing the Knicks can do is scour the globe for a yoot who can put the ball in the basket.

Baron Davis is due back end of January.

Only Baron Davis knows when he will be back and so far his back ain't back.

"Anthony picked up his fifth foul with 5:30 left, but D’Antoni elected to leave him in the game, because “I just didn’t feel like anybody else could produce any points,” (D'Antoni) said.

We need someone who can produce points. Waiting for Baron Davis is not a solution.

The other guys simply need to play better. Douglas, Fields and Jorts need to hit some shots.