We did hear that he took some rotations in practice with the first team, so perhaps it is underway and he just needs to feel out the NBA game and also figure out HOW to run the offense.

Soon is my guess. He's been a pseudo backup PG at times, right?

Knixkik wrote:Shumpert is a long-term SG. No need to hurt his development by throwing him out of position early in his career. He's not the long-term solution at PG. Better off keeping him where he is.

+1

nixluva wrote:Shump did actually play some PG in the last game. I don't think it's necessary to make him play as a dedicated PG. He's more of D Wade type of guard. He can create but is mostly a scorer. You just let him be a guard and do what is needed. He seemed to handle it OK for a rook playing his 2nd game.

I vote we get rid of the word Point Guard....And just use the word Guard. PG's are becoming extinct, and that word should be shot. What we have now in the NBA are playmakers at all posiitons.

Thats like asking D.Wade to just be a PG. He would not be the super star he is now.

Shump is a guard with playmaking skills and talent that makes others better. The NBA is going away from PG's and Centers.....It will soon be all Guards and Fowards in the near future.

There are 2 positions in the NBA....guards and forwards. Some guards like to post up....Some forwards like to shoot threes......Most superstars will fill more than one position....I see Shump as the next young star in this league, guarding 3 positions.

Whats the definition of a PG? Definition from Wikipedia.....

"Most current NBA point guards are between 5'10" and 6'4" (1.93 m) or shorter in height. In 2011 the average height point guards in the NBA was just over 6'1. A true point guard's job is to create scoring opportunities for his team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets." Thats Baron Davis, the only person on this team that fits this discription.

Shump has PG abilities, but I wouldn't classify him as a PG, because that would limit his ceiling. Wade is probably the best example of what he could turn into. A guard with court vision and passing abilities. John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, don't exist anymore. Everybody wants to be a playmaker now! Thanks to MJ......

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:Shump did actually play some PG in the last game. I don't think it's necessary to make him play as a dedicated PG. He's more of D Wade type of guard. He can create but is mostly a scorer. You just let him be a guard and do what is needed. He seemed to handle it OK for a rook playing his 2nd game.

I vote we get rid of the word Point Guard....And just use the word Guard. PG's are becoming extinct, and that word should be shot. What we have now in the NBA are playmakers at all posiitons.

Thats like asking D.Wade to just be a PG. He would not be the super star he is now.

Shump is a guard with playmaking skills and talent that makes others better. The NBA is going away from PG's and Centers.....It will soon be all Guards and Fowards in the near future.

There are 2 positions in the NBA....guards and forwards. Some guards like to post up....Some forwards like to shoot threes......Most superstars will fill more than one position....I see Shump as the next young star in this league, guarding 3 positions.

Whats the definition of a PG? Definition from Wikipedia.....

"Most current NBA point guards are between 5'10" and 6'4" (1.93 m) or shorter in height. In 2011 the average height point guards in the NBA was just over 6'1. A true point guard's job is to create scoring opportunities for his team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets." Thats Baron Davis, the only person on this team that fits this discription.

Shump has PG abilities, but I wouldn't classify him as a PG, because that would limit his ceiling. Wade is probably the best example of what he could turn into. A guard with court vision and passing abilities. John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, don't exist anymore. Everybody wants to be a playmaker now! Thanks to MJ......

Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose, Parker, Rubio, Wall, Jameer, Curry, Jennings... and Nash and Kid still around
Bbal without true PG is not a team sport, but jumping/dunking show.

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:Shump did actually play some PG in the last game. I don't think it's necessary to make him play as a dedicated PG. He's more of D Wade type of guard. He can create but is mostly a scorer. You just let him be a guard and do what is needed. He seemed to handle it OK for a rook playing his 2nd game.

I vote we get rid of the word Point Guard....And just use the word Guard. PG's are becoming extinct, and that word should be shot. What we have now in the NBA are playmakers at all posiitons.

Thats like asking D.Wade to just be a PG. He would not be the super star he is now.

Shump is a guard with playmaking skills and talent that makes others better. The NBA is going away from PG's and Centers.....It will soon be all Guards and Fowards in the near future.

There are 2 positions in the NBA....guards and forwards. Some guards like to post up....Some forwards like to shoot threes......Most superstars will fill more than one position....I see Shump as the next young star in this league, guarding 3 positions.

Whats the definition of a PG? Definition from Wikipedia.....

"Most current NBA point guards are between 5'10" and 6'4" (1.93 m) or shorter in height. In 2011 the average height point guards in the NBA was just over 6'1. A true point guard's job is to create scoring opportunities for his team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets." Thats Baron Davis, the only person on this team that fits this discription.

Shump has PG abilities, but I wouldn't classify him as a PG, because that would limit his ceiling. Wade is probably the best example of what he could turn into. A guard with court vision and passing abilities. John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, don't exist anymore. Everybody wants to be a playmaker now! Thanks to MJ......

Absolutely

Shumpert is talented, works hard and he plays with passion. Period.

My kingdom for better basketball players

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:Shump did actually play some PG in the last game. I don't think it's necessary to make him play as a dedicated PG. He's more of D Wade type of guard. He can create but is mostly a scorer. You just let him be a guard and do what is needed. He seemed to handle it OK for a rook playing his 2nd game.

I vote we get rid of the word Point Guard....And just use the word Guard. PG's are becoming extinct, and that word should be shot. What we have now in the NBA are playmakers at all posiitons.

Thats like asking D.Wade to just be a PG. He would not be the super star he is now.

Shump is a guard with playmaking skills and talent that makes others better. The NBA is going away from PG's and Centers.....It will soon be all Guards and Fowards in the near future.

There are 2 positions in the NBA....guards and forwards. Some guards like to post up....Some forwards like to shoot threes......Most superstars will fill more than one position....I see Shump as the next young star in this league, guarding 3 positions.

Whats the definition of a PG? Definition from Wikipedia.....

"Most current NBA point guards are between 5'10" and 6'4" (1.93 m) or shorter in height. In 2011 the average height point guards in the NBA was just over 6'1. A true point guard's job is to create scoring opportunities for his team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets." Thats Baron Davis, the only person on this team that fits this discription.

Shump has PG abilities, but I wouldn't classify him as a PG, because that would limit his ceiling. Wade is probably the best example of what he could turn into. A guard with court vision and passing abilities. John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, don't exist anymore. Everybody wants to be a playmaker now! Thanks to MJ......

Couldn't disagree more. There are two very distinct roles in the back court. If what you are saying is true, we wouldn't have this problem with TD right now. He's a decent enough scorer, but not a playmaker. If you want to call PG "playmaker", that's fine, but you still have a playmaker and a scorer in the back court.
Likewise, in the forward position, you have a wing, and a rebounder/paint player. Again, distinct roles. You can live with a SF getting 4-5 rebounds per game, but from your PF, you'll want 8+, and his points coming in the paint. Stretch-4, ala Dirk, is some kind of hybrid.

misterearl wrote:Guards, shmards...

Portland is running the West with Raymond Felton and three other former Knicks on the roster - Marcus Camby, Kurt Thomas and Jamal Crawford.

Something ain't right about that

The only answer must be chemistry.