Knixkik wrote:Hopefully they get in tune fast. It would be really nice to win the next 5 straight.

"we plays 'em one game at a time."

It would be even better to watch ball movement without the dribble. Win or lose.

Moonangie wrote:Wish I could watch the game. FUCK MSG!

fishmike wrote:We need these guys in the lineup playing together. Those two guys are critical. I like Fields a lot but the more I watch him the more its clear he's not an NBA starter. He's way to slow to guard NBA 2s. Derozen exposed his YMCA defense.

I have no doubt that our starting backcourt ends up being Baron/Shump with Douglas playing 30 minutes off the bench at both guard spots. Douglas has been pretty solid last couple of games. The problem is Bibby is simply terrible, and Douglas has a style of play that cant go for 40 minutes without wearing him down too much.

Getting Amare back will be huge as well. We just need to get all these guys involved. The wins will come a plenty

Most people realize Shumpert will eventually take over for Fields at SG. Shumpert is an impact player on both ends. He has Igoudala potential where he will score, rebound, and create offense, plus become a all-nba defender. This is my hope for Shumpert 2-3 years down the road. Fields will hopefully become a great 6th or 7th man backing up Shumpert and Anthony. Not taking anything away from him, because people tend to do that. He's a major contributor on a championship team, just in a different role.

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:We need these guys in the lineup playing together. Those two guys are critical. I like Fields a lot but the more I watch him the more its clear he's not an NBA starter. He's way to slow to guard NBA 2s. Derozen exposed his YMCA defense.

I have no doubt that our starting backcourt ends up being Baron/Shump with Douglas playing 30 minutes off the bench at both guard spots. Douglas has been pretty solid last couple of games. The problem is Bibby is simply terrible, and Douglas has a style of play that cant go for 40 minutes without wearing him down too much.

Getting Amare back will be huge as well. We just need to get all these guys involved. The wins will come a plenty

wearing him down or wearing us out?

The Shumpert/Igodala comparison is nice if it ever comes true. Shump reminds me of Raja Bell when he first came into the league. Obviously he's got talent... Im just looking forward to seeing how much.

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:We need these guys in the lineup playing together. Those two guys are critical. I like Fields a lot but the more I watch him the more its clear he's not an NBA starter. He's way to slow to guard NBA 2s. Derozen exposed his YMCA defense.

I have no doubt that our starting backcourt ends up being Baron/Shump with Douglas playing 30 minutes off the bench at both guard spots. Douglas has been pretty solid last couple of games. The problem is Bibby is simply terrible, and Douglas has a style of play that cant go for 40 minutes without wearing him down too much.

Getting Amare back will be huge as well. We just need to get all these guys involved. The wins will come a plenty

wearing him down or wearing us out?

are you down on him? I think he's been playing pretty good no? Aside from getting destroyed by Rondo (he does that) he's been ok. He still takes too many of those Sprewell adreniline 3s but OK. Seems to me whenever Bibby comes in shots stop falling and that guy cant guard anyone at all. I believe vs Tor Douglas was +3 and Bibby -18. Yikes.. those #s dont always tell an accurate story but if you watched that game the Knicks were terrible when Douglas was off the floor.

The Shumpert/Igodala comparison is nice if it ever comes true. Shump reminds me of Raja Bell when he first came into the league. Obviously he's got talent... Im just looking forward to seeing how much.

I think the problem with Douglas is he doesn't penetrate enough. I don't expect him to be the point guard b/c that isn't what he is. I think the role you feel is ideal for him. But he needs to penetrate more and not take so many of those Crawford/Sprewell/Zach Randolph 3s.

I think people need to stop expecting Shumpert to be a point guard as well. They are setting themselves up for dissapointment. The man has a score first mentality and he seems to be improving his shot. Why would anyone want him to be PG? That's dumb.

Allanfan20 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:We need these guys in the lineup playing together. Those two guys are critical. I like Fields a lot but the more I watch him the more its clear he's not an NBA starter. He's way to slow to guard NBA 2s. Derozen exposed his YMCA defense.

I have no doubt that our starting backcourt ends up being Baron/Shump with Douglas playing 30 minutes off the bench at both guard spots. Douglas has been pretty solid last couple of games. The problem is Bibby is simply terrible, and Douglas has a style of play that cant go for 40 minutes without wearing him down too much.

Getting Amare back will be huge as well. We just need to get all these guys involved. The wins will come a plenty

wearing him down or wearing us out?

are you down on him? I think he's been playing pretty good no? Aside from getting destroyed by Rondo (he does that) he's been ok. He still takes too many of those Sprewell adreniline 3s but OK. Seems to me whenever Bibby comes in shots stop falling and that guy cant guard anyone at all. I believe vs Tor Douglas was +3 and Bibby -18. Yikes.. those #s dont always tell an accurate story but if you watched that game the Knicks were terrible when Douglas was off the floor.

The Shumpert/Igodala comparison is nice if it ever comes true. Shump reminds me of Raja Bell when he first came into the league. Obviously he's got talent... Im just looking forward to seeing how much.

I think the problem with Douglas is he doesn't penetrate enough. I don't expect him to be the point guard b/c that isn't what he is. I think the role you feel is ideal for him. But he needs to penetrate more and not take so many of those Crawford/Sprewell/Zach Randolph 3s.

I think people need to stop expecting Shumpert to be a point guard as well. They are setting themselves up for dissapointment. The man has a score first mentality and he seems to be improving his shot. Why would anyone want him to be PG? That's dumb.

Agree 100%. Shumpert has a 2 guard body, plays like a 2, talks and walks like a 2. If he can somehow develop some lead guard skills fine, but ultimately he's a shooting guard, that defensively can guard 1, 2, and some 3s.

gunsnewing wrote:I agree but shump has been a pg his whole life. Which is why I think if asked to be more of an orchestrator he can eventually run an offense built around Amare & melo. Much like Westbrook. Especially with his ability to create off the dribble, dish and defend the 1 or 2. With that said i rather have baron/felton at PG for years to come & Shump at the 2 his entire career. Maybe Nash for a year. Will be interesting to see how that plays out next year

Baron is still in a suit and Raymond Felton is not walking through that door anytime soon. And I dig Ray Felton.

No to Steve Nash.

Give Shumpert the keys. Play Lin as his backup.

Sink or swim.