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12/26/2011  4:09 PM
Stat to watch: STAT’s role in New York
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Amar'e Stoudemire's usage rate took a hit due in part to Boston's Paul Pierce-less lineup on Sunday. (Errol Anderson/MCT/ABACAUSA.COM)
It is remarkable how quickly the Knicks have become Carmelo Anthony’s team, considering how Amar’e Stoudemire looked like a realistic candidate to lead the league in scoring over the first half of last season. Some of this transition was inevitable given New York’s personnel and the two stars’ respective skill sets.

Stoudemire is a demon in isolation plays, but he has always been more of a pick-and-roll finisher, not someone who initiates offense 25 feet from the rim. Anthony has never played a true “point forward” role for any extended stretch, but he’s a decent ball-handler, and the Knicks have one healthy point guard in Toney Douglas — a point guard still learning the rudiments of the job at the NBA level.

And so Anthony will take on a hefty chunk of the ball-handling/passing load, though the Knicks will distribute it among Carmelo, Douglas and even second-year guard Landry Fields and rookie Iman Shumpert (once he returns from a knee injury in a couple of weeks). New York fans envisioned a powerful Anthony/Stoudemire pick-and-roll combination after the Carmelo acquisition, but a funny thing happened on Christmas: Amar’e was the screener on (by my count) just one of the many pick-and-rolls Anthony ran in the Knicks’ 106-104 victory against the Celtics.

Anthony partnered up with Tyson Chandler on the rest of his (many) pick-and-rolls. This is not to say Stoudemire played a bit role on those plays. The Knicks placed him behind the three-point line, either in the corner or on the wing, using Stoudemire’s shooting range to keep the lane open. If Stoudemire’s defender is scared of leaving to clog the lane, that makes things easier for Anthony, who is still learning the intricacies of handling and dishing in crowded spaces while on the move. The kick-out pass to a spot-up shooter is one of the easiest plays to make on the pick-and-roll, and Stoudemire, with two three-pointers Sunday and a very reliable mid-range jumper, is a nice option to have. He can either stick in his spot behind the three-point line or loop up from the corner to the foul line area as Chandler rolls to the rim.

Chandler’s presence makes it easy to recall how Dallas would occasionally use Dirk Nowitzki in the way the Knicks used Stoudemire on Sunday — as an attention-drawing, spot-up decoy on Chandler pick-and-roll plays. Stoudemire isn’t in Nowitzki’s league as a long-range shooter, but it’s a useful way to keep both stars actively involved, even when only one can handle the ball.

But it will be interesting to watch whether scoring responsibilities ever slide too far Anthony’s way. To wit: On Sunday, Stoudemire used just 18.1 percent of New York’s possessions with either a shot, drawn foul or turnover. That’s very low for a star. If a team distributed its possessions equally among all five guys on the court, each would post a usage rate of 20 percent. Stars routinely crack 30 percent in individual games, and Stoudemire’s career average is about 27 percent. Stoudemire posted a usage rate higher than 18.1 in 77 of the 78 games he played last season; his usage rate was 18.0 in the other game.

Some of this obviously had to do with the Celtics’ lineup. Paul Pierce was out, meaning Boston had no workable matchup for Anthony, who finished with 37 points on 10-of-17 from the field and 13-of-15 at the line. Marquis Daniels, who guarded Anthony down the stretch, is a heady defender, but he’s giving up at least two inches and maybe 30 pounds in that matchup. The Knicks rightfully attacked Daniels frequently in crunch time, and Stoudemire (21 points on 8-of-11 shooting and 3-of-4 at the line) would have seen the ball more had Pierce been available.

Still, the lack of pick-and-roll plays for Stoudemire was jarring. This is one of the league’s most devastating pick-and-roll finishers — so much so that David Thorpe of ESPN.com suggested in a must-watch video last week that Blake Griffin should emulate the way Stoudemire worked with Steve Nash in Phoenix. Stoudemire finished precisely zero plays as the roll man on Sunday (per Synergy Sports), and as mentioned above, he did not work the play as Anthony’s direct partner. Stoudemire loves slipping screens — cutting quickly down the lane without really setting a stationary pick. Passing to a guy who slips a screen involves a split-second reaction. It’s a play based on quickness and timing, not one when a ball-handler can take a few dribbles around the screen, survey the defense and find the screener in the lane. Maybe Anthony and Stoudemire just don’t have that kind of timing down yet.

Again: It’s just one game, and the Knicks put up a huge offensive number against an elite defense, so it’s not as if there’s much to complain about. New York should be a very good offensive team regardless of how it distributes possessions. Defense will determine how good the Knicks can really be, and there is a long way to go on that end. And the Knicks can redistribute some shots Stoudemire’s way by making sure Douglas does not lead the team in field-goal attempts, as he did Sunday with a whopping 19. But balance was going to be tricky the moment the Knicks chose Anthony/Chandler over an elite point guard; let’s watch how they figure it out on a night-to-night basis

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12/26/2011  4:50 PM
one of the most devastating PrR players will not work with a real PG for another 4-10 weeks and ... why is the obvious conclusion surprising or worth an article?
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12/26/2011  5:09 PM
martin wrote:one of the most devastating PrR players will not work with a real PG for another 4-10 weeks and ... why is the obvious conclusion surprising or worth an article?

I was thinking the same thing when reading this. While his other observations are true, he never brought up the obvious reason why STAT wasn't in any PnR situations. It's not so much Melo as it is the fact that TD stops advancing the ball at perhaps 4 feet after he crosses mid=court. TD doesn't like to operate in traffic. I think because he's not able to see the floor and he's not as confident in his handle as he should be for a PG. TD practically avoids any PnR situations. He seems to do it begrudgingly. Until Baron gets healthy and perhaps when Bibby gets in there, we can't expect to see much of STAT in the PnR.

Besides if Melo and STAT PnR that isn't as effective if Tyson is in there cuz he can't stretch the floor. Tyson will be near the basket and thus clog the paint with his defender. STAT as we saw can shoot from range and thus the Melo/Tyson PnR has open space to work effectively. Melo/STAT PnR will work if you don't have Tyson in there.

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12/26/2011  6:14 PM
martin wrote:one of the most devastating PrR players will not work with a real PG for another 4-10 weeks and ... why is the obvious conclusion surprising or worth an article?
You can post a comment to him at the end of the article letting him know your opinion. I read the article from a link on SlickSports. You can also link to it from Posting and Toasting.
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12/27/2011  12:14 AM
It might be a bit premature to talk about Amare's demise. We're one game in. He scored 21pts with only 11 shots, shooting a ridiculous 73% against all-world defender KG. Extremely efficient.

It's a long season - there will likely be stretches where match ups will dictate that he carries the offensive load. I think we'd all like to see a Carmelo/Amare 2-man game. That would be pretty potent.

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12/27/2011  12:29 AM
Maybe we can set multiple picks at the same time. If it doesn't involve picking the opposing ballhandler it could even be a moving pick. So, two or more ppl set a pick (establishing position to roll to the hoop) and then we all roll, either to inside or to outside. Defense is scrambling at this point, passing lanes are open. What do you think?
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12/27/2011  12:49 AM
technomaster wrote:It might be a bit premature to talk about Amare's demise. We're one game in. He scored 21pts with only 11 shots, shooting a ridiculous 73% against all-world defender KG. Extremely efficient.

It's a long season - there will likely be stretches where match ups will dictate that he carries the offensive load. I think we'd all like to see a Carmelo/Amare 2-man game. That would be pretty potent.

I think Seth acknowledged that it was just one game. I think his point was that the offense is going through Carmelo. Synergy sports pointed out the same thing in a different manner. I also think Amare is aware that his game has to change. He has talked about it and has said that his goal was to improve his outside shot to expand his game. There are a ton of variables to consider in this, KG, poor point guard play, Tyson, matchups etc. That being said, I think the Knicks are Carmelo's team at least on offense. I also think the Knicks roster is not built for ssol. I think Tyson is a great center for the running game but he will clog up the middle. Hopefully the changes that are taking place are because the Knicks are competing for a championship. The Celtics game was awesome. I think the Knicks have what it takes to compete for a championship but I think Amare's role will change in the process.
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SI Article:Stat to watch: STAT's role in New York

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