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12/25/2011  4:18 PM
Not only are we going to be without Iman Shumpert for 2-4 weeks with a sprained MCL, but Jared Jeffries is expected to miss 1-2 weeks with a calf injury. They join Baron Davis (out 4-8 weeks) and Mike Bibby, who was inactive today but hopefully can suit up for next game.

Glen Grunwald should be working the phone right now getting some reinforcement.

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12/25/2011  4:22 PM
Walker doesn't look like he is fully back from groin either...
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12/25/2011  4:32 PM
RonRon wrote:Walker doesn't look like he is fully back from groin either...

Yea, he's not.

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12/25/2011  4:51 PM
We all expected more than the usual number of injuries this
season due to the condensed and crammed schedule.

On the bright side, I am glad to see use a 10 or 11 man rotation
while trying to protect our injury prone players Amare and Tyson.

Conditioning and resting players when needed will be KEY to our success this season.

"Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships." -Michael Jordan
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12/25/2011  4:57 PM
You can't be too worried about this kind of thing. There's nothing you can do about it and just bringing in bodies doesn't mean you fix the problem. So long as the injuries aren't of a serious nature we'll eventually get guys back and just have to tough it out until then.

At least we have Jorts to come in and give some help in place of Jared. As for the PG spot, I don't think Bibby is that far from getting back in. I think they're just giving him time to fully heal rather than rush him back. A couple more days makes a difference.

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12/25/2011  6:24 PM
Douglas Bibby and Melo are enough PG's for a couple of weeks.
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12/25/2011  6:46 PM
Guys we need a decent back up PG. our offense depends on it. We can beat bad teams by playing PG by committee like some of you want. But we want consistency input offense going in to the playoffs. Our depth at PG is being exposed right now. If we had a semi decent PG we would have embarrassed Boston tonight. Bibby and Diddy are both injury prone. We can't be scratching our heads come playoff time as to why TD and Shumpert can't get the offense going. Need to be proactive about closing this gap.
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12/25/2011  7:22 PM
loweyecue wrote:Guys we need a decent back up PG. our offense depends on it. We can beat bad teams by playing PG by committee like some of you want. But we want consistency input offense going in to the playoffs. Our depth at PG is being exposed right now. If we had a semi decent PG we would have embarrassed Boston tonight. Bibby and Diddy are both injury prone. We can't be scratching our heads come playoff time as to why TD and Shumpert can't get the offense going. Need to be proactive about closing this gap.

I will go on record as saying I don't believe any of us want this PG by committee thing. The issue is that there are very few decent PG's available and most get picked up. You can pretty much only pick from the scraps that are left or risky guys like Arenas. It's early in the season and we can't really say yet how our PG's will workout.

You also can't panic and do something crazy. You have to allow some time to let things develop and then make your move. It's just too early to make a concrete judgment no matter how bad it looks right now. The Shumpert injury is really unfortunate, but we can't get all crazy over it. Bibby will probably be back soon and I think Davis is probably closer than the team is making it seem.

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12/25/2011  7:46 PM
Shumpert Provides Boost, Then Exits With Injury
By HOWARD BECK
Published: December 25, 2011

Iman Shumpert gave the Knicks a charge Sunday afternoon and their first setback of the season — a right knee injury that will leave him on the sideline for up to a month.

Shumpert’s knee buckled when Boston’s Chris Wilcox fell into it in the third quarter of the Knicks’ 106-104 victory. The team is calling the injury a sprained medial collateral ligament, with an estimated recovery time of two to four weeks.

Shumpert, the 17th pick in the June draft, is a phenomenal athlete and defender who was expected to play a major role in the Knicks’ guard rotation. Although he was limping after the game, Shumpert seemed upbeat.

“Those guys were telling me it’s a long season, going to hit bumps in the road,” he said of his older teammates. “I thought they were talking about some different bumps.”

He meant rookie struggles, which were evident. Shumpert went 3 for 13 in his N.B.A. debut, finishing with 11 points, 4 rebounds and 3 turnovers.

Shumpert was helped off the court by two team staff members, although he said it was precautionary and that he could have walked off on his own.

“I think the initial scare was a little worse than it might be,” he said.

Without Shumpert, the Knicks will rely on Mike Bibby and Bill Walker as their primary backups at guard. Bibby missed Sunday’s opener because of back soreness but is expected back for Wednesday’s game at Golden State.

After reading this, I feel a little better that it may be in fact 2-4 weeks and not more.

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12/25/2011  8:09 PM
You don't rush MCL sprains....if it doesn't heal right, you can potentially cause more damage like an MCL tear, which is a season ending injury.

But something tells me he's a strong dude, that lives in the weight room. And hopefully, this injury will help him focus more on his shooting form from the waist up.

I tore my Achilles...but when I was in a boot, I did nothing but shoot around for months. My shot was water when I fully healed.

Lets hope for the best. I think Shump is going to be another surprise pick from the draft, and could be our starting SG or 6 man later in the season.....Right now, the only thing that TD has over Shump is NBA experience. His length and defense will be need, along with his ability to attack the rim and break down the defense.

There's only a few players on this team with that ability to break down a defense and get all the way to the rim.....2 of them are injured....(Baron, Shump, Melo)

If we add anybody, we need to add somebody that can get to the rim.....Especially in half court sets.

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12/25/2011  8:14 PM
If get B.Davis & Shumpert back at the same time, we may have a new starting backcourt.

I'd rather start Shumpert at the 2 than Fields.

Fields & TD off the bench would be nice.

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12/25/2011  8:35 PM
TLover wrote:If get B.Davis & Shumpert back at the same time, we may have a new starting backcourt.

I'd rather start Shumpert at the 2 than Fields.

Fields & TD off the bench would be nice.

TD has better shooting now and may get the edge in starting with Baron. Bobby, Shumpert were working well in the second unit. Fields can be part of the mix and also backup Melo. Fields did better today than he had in preseason. Melo needs to look for him cutting to the hoop. A few of those will go a long way in restoring his confidence. He can shoot from outside just not a very high percentage, I am still positive he will get better and he should keep starting till TD/Shump can earn the 2-Guard spot.

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12/25/2011  9:44 PM
I'm glad that Jefferies is out. More minutes for Harrellson. Let him stay out, permanent cheerleader. His game is much better suited for that anyway.
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12/25/2011  10:47 PM
nychamp wrote:I'm glad that Jefferies is out. More minutes for Harrellson. Let him stay out, permanent cheerleader. His game is much better suited for that anyway.
Jeffries has a role on this team that isn't too be big for him and I think he can be effective at it. I am not a fan of his or how the coach used him in the past. However, I think he is in the right role now and can help the team in limited minutes. I think the Knicks need him this year just not as the option on offense in the final seconds of games.
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12/26/2011  7:46 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
nychamp wrote:I'm glad that Jefferies is out. More minutes for Harrellson. Let him stay out, permanent cheerleader. His game is much better suited for that anyway.
Jeffries has a role on this team that isn't too be big for him and I think he can be effective at it. I am not a fan of his or how the coach used him in the past. However, I think he is in the right role now and can help the team in limited minutes. I think the Knicks need him this year just not as the option on offense in the final seconds of games.

When we need a big body from the bench for defense and rebounds down low, how about Harrelson? When we need the wiry, reasonably agile big to harass a Rondo or other tallish guard further out towards the perimeter, and get to some loose balls, why not Balkman? Harrelson can shoot and Balkman can dunk/make layups. Jefferies can do neither. And I think Balkman is a bum, but I still like him better than Jefferies.

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