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newyorkjs3
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12/22/2011  11:41 AM
I read posts all day long and have finally decided to make my first post. Hi everyone!

Just read this over on rotoworld.com. Would be pumped if this happened although it seems unlikely.

"Wilson Chandler would reportedly "love to" sign with the Knicks after his stint in China.

Chandler was known to enjoy his time in New York, but the team has just the $2.5 million exception available right now. He'll almost certainly get a more lucrative offer from another team, and Denver will be able to match any contract as he'll return as a restricted free agent when the time arrives. "

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12/22/2011  11:44 AM
I'm gonna guess that we'll see Wilson entertain the MLE next year. Or a S&T to NY. we shall see.
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12/22/2011  1:31 PM
This is is the kinda of package I was talking about.
Denver has a lot of SF that can play the position Chandler does, some rookies, and young players, he is expendable and it depends if he is looking to accept a QO*sign of leaving*
What is his value, if we can't get a sign and trade for Chandler? I assume his value would be less if its for a QO?
We have assets that become that we can trade by the deadline.
He and MozGoV, were 2 players I never wanted to part with, especially the way they got devalued.

Fields is a UFA, so it makes sense to trade him, I am not fond of using the MLE to keep him in the summer.
If Jorts continues to develop and is our first backup PF/C off our bench, he would be very attractive for a deal, however, I really don't want to part with him.
We don't have a player to make up for what he does, we have to see where he stands, and progress as the season goes on.
A first round pick, Balkman *maybe will have value, depending on how he does and not a "bad contract".
Walker would be a throw in. TD has some value, I really would like to keep him as well, I hope a package of 1st round pick, Fields, Walker, Balkman, and Jordan is the most we give up.

Wilson Chandler, I miss his versatility, however, the SF is his true natural position, while SG/PF, he can play limited minutes at.
I think he can go hot/cold too, he can be streaky offensively, but he does have more weapons than Fields.
With his size he has a nice mid range game, mixed with the ability to drive/penetrate, I hope he has a gained a better handle, and his post up game.
Most importantly, he understood is a player that was starting the understand the SSOL.
I don't think anyone wants to part with Jorts, it will be tough if they include MozGov in though.
We would have their bird rights which means we could go over the cap to sign them, without using any of our exemptions.

However, it will be tough to watch him guard the SG's with speed/quickness and range.
Like Fields, they just both have that quickness, Chandler is stronger, more athletic, and longer.
If Baron Davis is back healthy, I think he can play offensively better. He has the size to grab the rebounds/help defense that we missed

Teams that are under the cap, have players that aren't happy there.
However, a question is, how much do we trade for a qualifying offer player or can he still be sign and trained?
Below, are some players that may be dealt and besides Walker, could have value, depending on how they progress, but not looking to part with all
It depends on what we have to give up and how our players look, I see New Orleans, Cleveland, and Wizards, as ideal trading partners that have players we can target.
Having package is mainly built around: 1st round pick/Fields

1st Round Pick
Fields
Balkman
Walker
Jordan/Jorts *dont want to give him up, backup PF/C, RBer, Shooter, if they gave back MozGoV at us, tough call*
TD *dont want to part with him either, I feel 3 1/2 PGs is needed for this dreadful season, and majority of the times we will have 2.5, with 1 probably hurt/injured*

Having 2 Chandlers in the league, with Chandler Parsons being the last Chandler but as his first name, would be cool

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12/22/2011  1:52 PM
Patience

Sign The Mayor for the MLE next season and Pass GO, Collect $200 worth of playoff refreshments at The Garden.

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12/22/2011  1:55 PM
Don't know if those pineing for Wilson the same dudes who told the AntiMeloDrama crowd to "move on"....

Cuz this dude is gonna want money or a starting job.

All players should say anything and do anything to create a market for themselves. Always be say great things about your current team as they own your bird rights and can pay you the most.

What you do on the court is what matters the most. Anything you say only promotes your brand. If you can get a few teams to bid on your services your price goes up.

Wilson is not going to take a pay cut cuz he loves knick fans.

Melo plays his position.

I'll take the kid back in a minute, but really?

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12/22/2011  1:58 PM
The only reason to try and work out a Sign & Trade is so that we keep the MLE and target someone like Felton...
I like it especially having him here a whole season earlier but there are 2 problems with the scenario.
1. Field's value has taken a nose dive since we gave them the choice of Fields or Gallo in that trade.
2. Denver will not do us ANY favors considering most of those assets we gave them are dying to get out of there.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Gallo is back in 2 years after he signs the Qualifying offer.
Once they lose Gallo... people will see the trade very differently.

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12/22/2011  1:58 PM
misterearl wrote:Patience

Sign The Mayor for the MLE next season and Pass GO, Collect $200 worth of playoff refreshments at The Garden.

Only thing is, if you spend the MLE on Wilson next summer, who do you sign for PG?
Is Cleveland still paying an additional year for Baron that he may re-sign for the vet min?

I would love to bring Wilson back, but I'm not so sure it's a realistic possibility.

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12/22/2011  2:00 PM
Baron has 1 more season of pay coming from Cleveland after this season.
So we essentially have Barron for 2 seasons.
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12/22/2011  2:01 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Patience

Sign The Mayor for the MLE next season and Pass GO, Collect $200 worth of playoff refreshments at The Garden.

Only thing is, if you spend the MLE on Wilson next summer, who do you sign for PG?
Is Cleveland still paying an additional year for Baron that he may re-sign for the vet min?

I would love to bring Wilson back, but I'm not so sure it's a realistic possibility.

MaTT4281 - thank you for reminding me that I miss Raymond Felton even more than The Mayor.

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12/22/2011  2:07 PM
Nalod wrote:Don't know if those pineing for Wilson the same dudes who told the AntiMeloDrama crowd to "move on"....

Cuz this dude is gonna want money or a starting job.

All players should say anything and do anything to create a market for themselves. Always be say great things about your current team as they own your bird rights and can pay you the most.

What you do on the court is what matters the most. Anything you say only promotes your brand. If you can get a few teams to bid on your services your price goes up.

Wilson is not going to take a pay cut cuz he loves knick fans.

Melo plays his position.

I'll take the kid back in a minute, but really?

I see Wilson as a backup SF/PF which is perfect cause he can backup both Amare/Melo and float to other positions as well. He defends, strokes it from 3, rebounds. When you got a guy like that you find minutes for him.

Whether he wants to settle for MLE is another thing.

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12/22/2011  2:33 PM
I think there might be a new provision in the CBA that would help us with Wilson.

I think it says something like if you sign a guy to 3 year contract, you can then extend him after 1 year with Bird Rights even though he has not finished his contract.
The new contract would not start until after the 3 years of the current one expires.

Anyone have any insight on this?

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12/22/2011  2:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2011  2:39 PM
We need the MLE next summer to sign a starting point guard. Whether it's Baron, Nash, Felton, whoever.

I'd LOVE to have Wilson back - but I just don't see it for the MLE. Unless Nashy is willing to come for the Room exception. Which would be crazy. Or unless Baron is willing to play one more year for the minimum, since Cleveland will still be paying him $14M for that season, too.

Also, MLE is LOW for Wilson. Marcus Thornton, who can barely hold Wilson's jock, got $8 MILLION PER YEAR from Sacramento. Under that scenario, what's Wilson get? 4yrs $43M from some team? Our MLE is most likely not gonna cut it.

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12/22/2011  3:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2011  3:28 PM
crzymdups wrote:We need the MLE next summer to sign a starting point guard. Whether it's Baron, Nash, Felton, whoever.

I'd LOVE to have Wilson back - but I just don't see it for the MLE. Unless Nashy is willing to come for the Room exception. Which would be crazy. Or unless Baron is willing to play one more year for the minimum, since Cleveland will still be paying him $14M for that season, too.

Also, MLE is LOW for Wilson. Marcus Thornton, who can barely hold Wilson's jock, got $8 MILLION PER YEAR from Sacramento. Under that scenario, what's Wilson get? 4yrs $43M from some team? Our MLE is most likely not gonna cut it.

One of the questions Hahn answered earlier today was about the room exception. It doesn't roll over to next year - we either use it this year, or we start fresh next season with the MLE since we'll be over the cap.

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12/22/2011  3:38 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:We need the MLE next summer to sign a starting point guard. Whether it's Baron, Nash, Felton, whoever.

I'd LOVE to have Wilson back - but I just don't see it for the MLE. Unless Nashy is willing to come for the Room exception. Which would be crazy. Or unless Baron is willing to play one more year for the minimum, since Cleveland will still be paying him $14M for that season, too.

Also, MLE is LOW for Wilson. Marcus Thornton, who can barely hold Wilson's jock, got $8 MILLION PER YEAR from Sacramento. Under that scenario, what's Wilson get? 4yrs $43M from some team? Our MLE is most likely not gonna cut it.

One of the questions Hahn answered earlier today was about the room exception. It doesn't roll over to next year - we either use it this year, or we start fresh next season with the MLE since we'll be over the cap.

Aha. So we'll need to use the MLE on a starting PG. Unless someone is willing to take the minimum. I could see Baron MAYBE willing to take the minimum because Cleveland will be paying his original contract for one more season after this... but I kind of doubt it.

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