yeah, i cringed when i heard the report too. i would'nt mind dampier becuase he is playing like a beast in the west and if he came to the east it would probably be better. but why van exel when we already have three point guards on our roster? no doubt nick at nite will help us in the playoff and could play shooting guard at times with steph but defensively it is a BIG liability. i think in the west he could get away with it becuase of the fast break speed. but in the east during the playoffs when the teams are forced to play half court sets undersized guards will get exposed. just ask new orleans. imagine us playing the pistons or indiana? hamilton and artest will have a feild day posting van exel up. what we could try for is michael pietrus. he is very athletic and could definately be steph's running mate. talk about showtime, he could provide it. i don't think he is getting to much run behind j-rich so bring him to new york. dampier and pietrus is the deal to get.

I am not for Trading KT right now. I would trade any combo of the other tradeable players for Damp or Wallace but not KT. NY needs him this season still. As an off season deal, maybe but NY does not need NVE now.

Check this one out.....

Atlanta trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (17.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.2 minutes)
Atlanta receives: PG Nick Van Exel (13.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.7 apg in 33.1 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.9 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and +5.0 apg.

Golden State trades: PG Nick Van Exel (13.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.7 apg in 33.1 minutes)
C Erick Dampier (11.9 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Golden State receives: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 53 games)
C Dikembe Mutombo (6.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 54 games)
PF Othella Harrington (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 43 games)
PF Mike Sweetney (1.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 16 games)
PG Frank Williams (4.2 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 47 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and -1.7 apg.

New York trades: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.4 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.6 minutes)
C Dikembe Mutombo (6.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 24.2 minutes)
PF Othella Harrington (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.2 minutes)
PF Mike Sweetney (1.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 5.5 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (4.2 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.9 minutes)
New York receives: C Erick Dampier (11.9 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 51 games)
SF Rasheed Wallace (17.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.2 minutes)

TRADE ACCEPTED Trade ID number 1530034

I have no idea why GS would do this BUT........
NY would have..
Marbury
Houston
TT
Wallace
Dampier
Nazr
Demarr Johnson
Penny
Norris

Resign Doleac and Sign Baker!

Now that team is interesting. I think signing an outside shooter would make it complete.

[Edited by - gonygonygo on 02/19/2004 09:03:59]

[Edited by - gonygonygo on 02/19/2004 09:36:03]

maybe we can include another team and bring in a solid starting PF. Not Joe Smith but someone like that. I not sure if Nazr could be that guy or not, but if we re-sign Doleac then he might.

With that said. If we stay pat or maybe make a smaller deal I will be happy. Then we can start gelling and see what this team is capable of and then sign Sheed for the MLE.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/19/2004 09:25:07]

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/19/2004 09:32:07]

I'd do this trade in a heartbeat.Remember how productive Van Exel was with dallas off the bench... NO brainer

with Van Exel and penny our bench will be the best in the league. Then you can play doleac and sweetney signifcant minutes. I'm all for this trade now! and who knows how healthy houston is going to be for the rest of the season. If H20 goes down, van exel can start and frank can be the backup SG.

almost 3 hours til the deadline...wonder how far the talk has gone...or if it stopped.

HeH 1 more post guns and u can join the 1 thousand club

Posted by metra:

What!?!? FWill will never get enough time. How can FWill supporters like this trade? He gets 12min and under now, how will he get more time w/ NVE and his inconsistent ass. The Knicks are gonna turn into the Yanks, but w/o all the championships.

Dampier isnt worth that much. KT is just as good. I dont care about Othella and Shandon but KT can produce. NVE just clogs up the guards.

I love Frankie just as much as any other Knick fan, but when you have a chance to bring in a guard who can take over any game coming OFF THE BENCH, I think you bring him in. Frankie is good, but lets face it, he is no Van Exel. Dampier will give us a better upgrade in the frontcourt which is what we need. By doing this trade, we get stronger in the frontcourt and in the backcourt. Frankie can still get some minutes as the backup PG, and Van Exel can off the bench as the backup SG. Plus, we don't know how healthy Houston will be come playoff time, so getting Van Exel would definitely benefit us.

Actually, i dont like Fwill. I never did. I was trying to reply to guns about how he assumed Fwill would get MORE time with NVE here. And since this board is full of FWill sympathizers, i tried to appeal to them and see why they think this trade would be good.