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nixluva
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12/12/2011  2:15 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/7364/a-joke-becomes-a-reality-for-chandler

Really good info from Jared Z on what he saw so far from Knicks.

First Full Practice Footnotes
Chandler has no plans to follow Stoudemire's off-the-court footsteps, from fashion to entertainment. "No, honestly. I don't expect anything now, except for going home and getting good naps and icing." Chandler still needs time to take in New York City; he's really only been here when the Mavericks came to town. He said his favorite spots so far are trendy restaurants Tao and Mr. Chow. By the way, he's listed at 7-1, but his posture is so straight that he looks 7-5 standing next to him. That's probably the same posture that rubbed off on Stoudemire, who claims stretching his back during the offseason helped him grow an inch to 6-11.

D'Antoni on a potential Shawne Williams re-signing: "Well, we don't know. I mean, that's Glen [Grunwald]. I'm sure he's working on it and we're going to try to get the best player that we can get, and [Shawne's] definitely in that mix." Speaking of Grunwald, he's proving himself to be worth more to the franchise than an "interim" general manager. In fact, he's already in contention for Executive of the Year after landing Chandler.

D'Antoni on working with Mike Woodson: "Defensively we're going to do exactly what we did last year. The idea is to just get them motivated and keep them up there in a different voice, which can help. Mike will be great on the defensive end, and as all the other coaches. Again, we're getting into a little habit of offense-defense coaches, but you coach the whole game. He'll help me on the offensive end and defensive end -- wherever we need him at. He's a very good coach, as the other guys, and we'll sit in the room together and figure out what we need to do, and do it."
Practice observations: When the media was allowed inside to watch, Woodson was teaching the players how to rotate efficiently to defend the corner three. That lasted for about 15 minutes. Afterward, they ran pick-and-roll drills in five-on-five, game-speed simulation for about 45 minutes. Shumpert's decision-making obviously needs some work, but his shooting form and athleticism is terrific. He jumps nearly as high from beyond the arc as Ray Allen does. After Shumpert was drafted, D'Antoni mentioned his accuracy from long range during his pre-draft workout sealed the selection in his mind, and you could see why on Sunday.

Josh Harrellson hasn't gotten much attention since arriving in Tarrytown, but he could see the court early on during the season for several reasons: he's a big body at 275 pounds, he can set strong picks and dribble around the perimeter with ease and without hesitation (benefits for spacing and initiating the pick-and-roll), and he has range out to 3-point territory.

Fields changed his jersey to number 2 to accommodate Chandler's No. 6. He also looked like a changed man on the court, resembling Richard Hamilton coming off screens and driving the lane. If Fields can be consistent from downtown during the season, which he was during practice, D'Antoni will never think twice about benching him in place of Shumpert or Bill Walker.

Mike Bibby, who's wearing No. 20, was already putting his foot down in his first practice
-- with the media, that is. "I don't have nothing to prove," he said. "Ever since I came in, people have doubted me. I'm going into my 14th year. I don't care what you guys say. I don't care what anybody says about me. I've always been like that. I'm going to go out and do whatever it takes to help the team win. If that stands for me standing on the sidelines cheering, that's what I've got to do. I'm here to win and play the role that they want me to play -- whatever it is."

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12/12/2011  2:46 AM
I loved the points about Chandler, Fields, Iman and Jorts. I feel that Knick fans have been underestimating how good Iman and Jorts can be. There's a reason we picked those 2 guys. MDA and Walsh are big on getting smart players with actual NBA skills. This is what they did with Fields and there's a pattern to how they evaluate players. The young guys will have a lot to learn but I feel that the Knicks brass believe they can contribute this year.
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12/12/2011  2:53 AM
cannot wait to see shumpert in action.

also good to hear that woodson is coaching the D in practice. really expect it to improve this year.

not sure what to make of bibby. guy seems bizarre.

harrellson is intriguing; he shot 9/29 for his career from 3 at kentucky. was surprised to see he has deep range. i expected him more to be a pick setter/good defender.

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12/12/2011  3:00 AM
BigSm00th wrote:not sure what to make of bibby. guy seems bizarre.

You expressed something I couldn't put into words when watching his interview.

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12/12/2011  5:16 AM
Good stuff. The part about Fields was especially interesting and encouraging. If his game has improved, then what an added bonus that would be.
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12/12/2011  7:59 AM
whats obvious and I have read in a few places is Chandler wants to be in NYC. He was impressed with Shump and thought he'd do very well in "D'Antoni's system".

Team USA player where Mike was deputy dog to Coach K in last olympics.

Mike got some cred. We all forget given our penchant to obsess on the defensive weakness given our roster imbalances the last few years over his strengths.

Ty wanted to be hear and thought enough about his place in this line up.

About phucking time a player put his on the table to come here.

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12/12/2011  8:09 AM
that's a good read.. so happy to finally be able to read about basketball again.

i'm VERY interested in what bibby is going to bring. him coming here was HIS choice, something he hasn't had alot of in his career, since he's been traded so much, so I wonder if this energizes him a bit. if he could somehow give us 12pts/6assists/38% from 3 that would be amazing.

i think chandler is going to extend AMEAR's career. with chandler doing the tough work downlow defensively, it really opens up AMEAR to just worry about offense and help defense. that is going to be huge.

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12/12/2011  8:16 AM
nyk4ever wrote:i'm VERY interested in what bibby is going to bring. him coming here was HIS choice, something he hasn't had alot of in his career, since he's been traded so much, so I wonder if this energizes him a bit. if he could somehow give us 12pts/6assists/38% from 3 that would be amazing.

agree. If he can give 80 percent of what Billups gave on a per minute basis, I'm happy.

i think chandler is going to extend AMEAR's career. with chandler doing the tough work downlow defensively, it really opens up AMEAR to just worry about offense and help defense. that is going to be huge.

agree completely. His game includes power, explosion, and agression. The logical conclusion is when he uses his athleticism to score, he'll collide against less mass. On the defensive end, that's self-explanatory

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12/12/2011  8:57 AM
nyk4ever wrote:that's a good read.. so happy to finally be able to read about basketball again.

i'm VERY interested in what bibby is going to bring. him coming here was HIS choice, something he hasn't had alot of in his career, since he's been traded so much, so I wonder if this energizes him a bit. if he could somehow give us 12pts/6assists/38% from 3 that would be amazing.

i think chandler is going to extend AMEAR's career. with chandler doing the tough work downlow defensively, it really opens up AMEAR to just worry about offense and help defense. that is going to be huge.

12 points and 6 assists? Those would be his best numbers since 07-08 when he played over 30 min/game. Honestly, if he's playing more than 15 min/game then we're have serious trouble in the backcourt.

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12/12/2011  9:21 AM
Landry Fields, with a year of NBA experience, will be fun to watch. His intelligence and court presence, as described by Bill Bradley, will be invaluable. Fields, now wearing number 2, will be the bonding agent that Larry Johnson was.

....and anudder thing, not only are the Knicks more talented, they may have the most (SFX: man crush alarm) ruggedly handsome starting five in the league. Without question, GQ is already salivating over Tyson Chandler.

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12/12/2011  9:23 AM
VCoug wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:that's a good read.. so happy to finally be able to read about basketball again.

i'm VERY interested in what bibby is going to bring. him coming here was HIS choice, something he hasn't had alot of in his career, since he's been traded so much, so I wonder if this energizes him a bit. if he could somehow give us 12pts/6assists/38% from 3 that would be amazing.

i think chandler is going to extend AMEAR's career. with chandler doing the tough work downlow defensively, it really opens up AMEAR to just worry about offense and help defense. that is going to be huge.

12 points and 6 assists? Those would be his best numbers since 07-08 when he played over 30 min/game. Honestly, if he's playing more than 15 min/game then we're have serious trouble in the backcourt.

why is it so hard to fathom that if he plays 20mpg to attain those numbers? with the way the offense is, it's logical he's going to have plenty of opportunity's to score, especially from 3pt land with amear and melo drawing doubles much of the time.

and honestly, the way our backcourt looks right now, we're going to be relying on bibby heavily.

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12/12/2011  9:23 AM
Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

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12/12/2011  9:34 AM
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

wouldn't mind Felton, just wish he would stop eating those jelly donuts during the offseason.

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12/12/2011  9:40 AM
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

+1

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12/12/2011  9:42 AM
Panos wrote:
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

+1

woah woah woah. you're not supposed to be agreeing with earl. you start the eggnog already?

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12/12/2011  9:48 AM
martin wrote:
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

wouldn't mind Felton, just wish he would stop eating those jelly donuts during the offseason.

Martin - This morning on Good Morning America, Dr. OZ recognized jelly donuts as "The Breakfast of Champions"... which is exactly what our beloved Knicks would be with the tenacious and fearless Ray Felton at the controls.

You heard it here first.

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12/12/2011  9:53 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
Panos wrote:
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

+1

woah woah woah. you're not supposed to be agreeing with earl. you start the eggnog already?

It's a new age, my friend. Finally, the realists can be optimists and vice-versa.

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12/12/2011  9:53 AM
misterearl wrote:
martin wrote:
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

wouldn't mind Felton, just wish he would stop eating those jelly donuts during the offseason.

Martin - This morning on Good Morning America, Dr. OZ recognized jelly donuts as "The Breakfast of Champions"... which is exactly what our beloved Knicks would be with the tenacious and fearless Ray Felton at the controls.

You heard it here first.

has our gov't declared jelly donuts a fruit yet for our precious school kids? You know, cause of the grape content in the jelly?

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12/12/2011  10:00 AM
Panos wrote:
misterearl wrote:Forget Chris Paul.

Sign Raymond Felton in 2012.

+1

+1

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12/12/2011  10:44 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:not sure what to make of bibby. guy seems bizarre.

You expressed something I couldn't put into words when watching his interview.

I don't blame him for being surly. Did you hear what they asked him....it was like did ANYONE else want you. Not the type of question you ask then and there.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
Great insight from Jared Zwerling

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