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11/4/2011  8:11 PM
Jordan's big play is one minute into the video. I believe he had 15 pts. in this game and seems to be putting up better numbers this year from what I have read.

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11/4/2011  9:04 PM
who is that big boy on the yellow team? From this video, Jordon doesn't look like he is NBA ready yet. Maybe, that big boy in yellow is too much for him but he looks like he needs to work on his lower and upper body strength, increase his agility, speed, and footwork/coordination. I wouldn't be opposed to getting him if the Knick's want him to practice and get a feel of NBA competition. I seriously don't think he will be our answer or even crack the rotation this year, at least for the first half.

With that said, that leaves us with Jorts which I do not feel very comfortable from watching his clips during the draft. I don't know if or how much he has worked on his game since.
We definitely need to upgrade our center position with 1 or even 2 players. If this lockout does end, a lot of it would depend on how it would affect our free agency spending.

If we are low budget

Aaron Gray
Jeff Foster
Kwame Brown

MLE or close to it
Dalembert
Kris dumped by Kardashion Humphries

I am not sure where would

Prizbilla be, he might be the veteran minimum to halfway MLE money. At one point when they were giving out MLE, many teams seeking to make a playoff push would pay him the MLE.
He was once a good shot blocker, good defender, and decent rebounder.

I don't know whats going on with Turiaf either but I wouldn't be happy if he is even considered as our starting Center. The center would help our defense out tremendously, something we truly need. Can MLE be used for just 1 year, cause i thought it must be a 2-3 year deal. I don't know if we should try for 1 player like Dalembert or sign 2-3 of the players above instead. Again a lot of it would depend on the cap for the following season, because we are so intrigued from signing that 3rd star. I feel if we can add a talent like Dalembert, we must do so for the MLE, I think he is very tradeable because he would be a double double with 2-3 blocks a game.

Some feel Kris Humphries is too small and his closer to a PF but I think he plays tough and can be a double double. He boxes out, does the dirty work, and plays the right way.
Dalembert has less basketball IQ than him but has the length, athleticism, to go with his shot blocking and defense. But how does his game change when his physical abilities decline.
Humphries doesn't rely on his physical abilities especially for jumping.

Its funny, how these guys produce similar numbers but do it with 2 different skills sets. Please get us a body to protect the rim and our 100million dollar man, we can't see him playing at center for us and risking injury, i think 8-10minutes at most, should be the most, only when the match up allows us to do so.

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11/4/2011  9:04 PM
that guy in yellow looks like a better prospect than Jordon.
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11/4/2011  9:09 PM
"I'm going to go out and be the tough guy. I'm going to go out and get the offensive rebounds, I'm going to get the put-backs.... I'm going to set hard screens. I'm just going to do what I have to do -- dive on the floor, take charges. Anything I have to do to help this team be successful," Harrellson said last week in a phone interview.

I love his mentality, I just don't know if he is ready to play versus NBA competition. I don't think he should be our starter though. If he did improve his game he probably has a chance to crack the rotation just as much as Jerome Jordan would...

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11/4/2011  9:57 PM
RonRon wrote:that guy in yellow looks like a better prospect than Jordon.

I agree. He is a beast. He reminds of me of Shaq the way he just moves people. I googled the team. Here is draftexpress's report on him.



FIBA World Championship Preview: Group C, Part Two
August 16, 2006
Playing in his first ever senior International competition, Schortsanitis is a rare case of a basketball player.

Having an amazing combination of strength and athleticism, Big Sofo is one of Greece's best guys off the bench and should be an immediate help in the low post, especially knowing that he is sometimes practically unguardable at this level with one on one defenses. His ability to use his size and get to the basket rather easily thanks to his nimble feet and almost plastic finishing ability makes him a very tough player to guard with any type of defense.

His size is immense, but doesn't slow his outstanding quickness and explosiveness, which allow him to run the court in transition and usually finish most plays with an impressive dunk. Schortsanitis, coming off his first Euroleague season with Olympiakos, was an important player for his team and a big reason for his team's trip to the quarterfinal round.

He is constantly improving and has dropped over 50 pounds over the last year, trying to regain the form that got him drafted three summers ago by the Los Angeles Clippers. Although he is young and is just now on the verge of slowly becoming a go-to player for his club, Schortsanitis has immensely improved his offensive game and is a guy that comes usually off the bench to completely distract the opposing defenses.

However, Schortsanitis has some obvious problems with his game that make him only a 10- or 15-minute addition off the bench, at least for this upcoming World Championship. First of all, he might have dropped a lot of weight, but he still needs to get even slimmer and more explosive. His massive frame and very high body fat relative to his size limits his conditioning level and make his offensive outburst short and inconsistent.

His size, although immense, is limited, as he cannot be constantly dominant for a 40-minute game at the center position, standing only 6-9. Therefore Schortsanitis will need to improve his outside shot and his free throw percentages, in order to be a threat from outside the post too. Right now, his weak free throw shooting allows opponents to foul him quite often in order to avoid easy baskets, and Schortsanitis usually rewards them for their hack a Sofo-techniques by shooting around 50% from the charity stripe.

His mid-range and three point shot are definitely not reliable, while, although he can present a decent number of post moves, he can still be blocked in the paint, if the space is minimal and the opponent's reach is significant enough. At that point, his limited court vision and lack of patience can be a hindrance, and although easily explained by his age and character, they are not useful for a coach who wants his big guy to be a part of his team’s ball movement, particularly when he is double teamed.

Overall, an amazing talent, with some great potential, mainly thanks to his explosiveness, strength, quickness and athleticism, Schortsanitis will be the back up center, a guy who will need to offer some of his individual skills in order for this team-oriented group to achieve some easy baskets when the guards and starting big man Lazaros Papadopoulos won't be able to contribute.


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11/4/2011  9:59 PM
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11/5/2011  1:58 PM
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Very disappointing ! He is not ready for the NBA. He seem to be maybe 2 years away.

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11/5/2011  3:30 PM
I am very surprised that he is listed at only 6'9, he is believed to have have a lot of fat in him to go with the big boy. It is amazing how agile he is, how fast he is, and how big he looks. He looks much more NBA ready to me than Jerome Jordan, I would bring him in for a work out and see where it goes from there. Does anyone have is rights or can he be signed as a free agent?

I am not saying he is going to be a star rather would like to evaluate all cheap talents on the position we seriously need help in. He is listed at 6'9 but i think its possible he is taller, I never trust players are listed at than they actually are. The way he moves for his size can earn him about 10minutes, a role Jared Jeffries is suppose to play. If Jarred could do it with foot speed, this guy can possibly do so too? He can also push people around with his weight, unlike Jeffries, easily can dunk instead of missing point blank layups.

Bring BIG SOFO in if we can!

I know we are also limited on roster spots, I think we have to consider cutting some players. Get them in practice and see if the players improved over the year, Rautins, Turiaf *with injury*, and Balkman. At this point, I wouldn't even look to sign Jordan because of our limited roster spots. This is quite a recent game of him and he see he needs a lot of flaws, needs to work + improve his strengths/weaknesses, gain weight/muscle, and develop skills.

Jordan doesn't look too long/good reach for a 7 footer, horrible jumping ability, and very bad timing/footwork/coordination. Is that Jordan Farmer that did that layup and he gave him the and 1 foul? Maybe I am being too harsh on this kid but we all know that we need serious help with the center position and he is just too raw and not talented enough to take a roster spot at this time.

We seriously need to look for better center options and consider the above players I mentioned on the other post because Stat would be throw in to play lots of minutes at Center with Dantoni if not....

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11/5/2011  4:46 PM
RonRon wrote:I am very surprised that he is listed at only 6'9, he is believed to have have a lot of fat in him to go with the big boy. It is amazing how agile he is, how fast he is, and how big he looks. He looks much more NBA ready to me than Jerome Jordan, I would bring him in for a work out and see where it goes from there. Does anyone have is rights or can he be signed as a free agent?

I am not saying he is going to be a star rather would like to evaluate all cheap talents on the position we seriously need help in. He is listed at 6'9 but i think its possible he is taller, I never trust players are listed at than they actually are. The way he moves for his size can earn him about 10minutes, a role Jared Jeffries is suppose to play. If Jarred could do it with foot speed, this guy can possibly do so too? He can also push people around with his weight, unlike Jeffries, easily can dunk instead of missing point blank layups.

Bring BIG SOFO in if we can!

I know we are also limited on roster spots, I think we have to consider cutting some players. Get them in practice and see if the players improved over the year, Rautins, Turiaf *with injury*, and Balkman. At this point, I wouldn't even look to sign Jordan because of our limited roster spots. This is quite a recent game of him and he see he needs a lot of flaws, needs to work + improve his strengths/weaknesses, gain weight/muscle, and develop skills.

Jordan doesn't look too long/good reach for a 7 footer, horrible jumping ability, and very bad timing/footwork/coordination. Is that Jordan Farmer that did that layup and he gave him the and 1 foul? Maybe I am being too harsh on this kid but we all know that we need serious help with the center position and he is just too raw and not talented enough to take a roster spot at this time.

We seriously need to look for better center options and consider the above players I mentioned on the other post because Stat would be throw in to play lots of minutes at Center with Dantoni if not....

It is Farmar. I think he played for them before/in between stints in the NBA. I actually thought Jordan looked better than he did in the summer leagues. I agree that Jordan is a long way from being an NBA player. I don't think the Knicks should count on him or invest the 1/2 mil to buy out his contract.
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11/5/2011  4:57 PM
The big kid is that kid they used to call Euro Baby Shaq some years ago if I'm not mistaken. He's got a lot more experience than Jordan. Jordan is very weak in the lower body, that's why I actually think Jorts could be effective. Jorts has a very strong base and is hard to move once he has position.
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11/5/2011  6:24 PM
I think he tried to make an NBA team. Didn't work. To slow.
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11/10/2011  12:06 AM
Jordan definitely does not look ready to me. Hopefully, Walsh found another Fields in Jorts, because we definitely need a bigger body at center.
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11/10/2011  1:38 AM
TheGame wrote:Jordan definitely does not look ready to me. Hopefully, Walsh found another Fields in Jorts, because we definitely need a bigger body at center.

Fields is insanely hard to replicate. Hopefully Jorts is a mini Oakley. That I can live with,

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11/10/2011  2:58 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
TheGame wrote:Jordan definitely does not look ready to me. Hopefully, Walsh found another Fields in Jorts, because we definitely need a bigger body at center.

Fields is insanely hard to replicate. Hopefully Jorts is a mini Oakley. That I can live with,

Jorts practiced against Enes Kanter and it helped him to improve. Jorts is no athletic stud but he's active, physical and smart. He could be a bigger version of Glen "big baby" Davis. I was actually shocked to learn Jorts has a 31" vertical :). At almost 6-10 he will have to use his girth to make up for his lack of length. I think he'll be better at holding his position than Ronny or Jeffries. Jorts has that low center of gravity :). We'll see if he can earn a spot in the rotation.

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11/11/2011  2:18 PM
How does anyone watch this video and determine that he is or isn't ready for the NBA?
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11/11/2011  2:28 PM
Bippity10 wrote:How does anyone watch this video and determine that he is or isn't ready for the NBA?

"Nix" isn't just anyone.

Jerome Jordan Euro Footage from October

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