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10/30/2011  12:56 AM
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10/30/2011  12:58 AM
all i know is it seems like this kid has more workout vids out there then I can recall of any prospect rookie.
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10/30/2011  2:50 AM
Man you gotta luv this kids commitment to his craft! Iman goes hard! That's how a rookie should prep. He luvs Makin vids but I can't be max when I see his supposed weakness comin out of college turning into a real solid part of his game. His shot lOoks like it's just fine and he should be ready for his rookie season. Just too bad he didn't get a chance to work on his passing with the coaches. I'm really ticked off about that. Still I really think he'll have a chance to shine even if he's not all that ready to run the point from day one. He can help in so many other ways. I bet Mike has seen all Iman's vids:). He probably can barely control his urge to call the kid and start telling him how he's gonna use him!
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10/30/2011  8:53 AM
I love the jump shot over the folding chair, but I would be more impressed if he used a big cardboard cutout, like from the movie store.
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10/30/2011  9:44 AM
nixluva wrote:Man you gotta luv this kids commitment to his craft! Iman goes hard! That's how a rookie should prep. He luvs Makin vids but I can't be max when I see his supposed weakness comin out of college turning into a real solid part of his game. His shot lOoks like it's just fine and he should be ready for his rookie season. Just too bad he didn't get a chance to work on his passing with the coaches. I'm really ticked off about that. Still I really think he'll have a chance to shine even if he's not all that ready to run the point from day one. He can help in so many other ways. I bet Mike has seen all Iman's vids:). He probably can barely control his urge to call the kid and start telling him how he's gonna use him!

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10/30/2011  11:51 AM
Did you see the vertical on the chair damn!!!
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10/30/2011  1:05 PM
The transition from Folding chairs to a a parsons, or a bentwood chair will be difficult!

They got arm chairs in the pros!

But he messed up that chair! Damn near broke its leg!

He can help in so many ways. First thing, put them chairs back before some one gets hurt!

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10/30/2011  1:58 PM
this draft pick has the highest ceiling since Patrick Ewing. We tend to over hype all over Knick's players in the past, but I really believe this kid has the tools to be a star in the league. He has the work ethic, killer instinct, and the physical tools (also his ability to rap, LOL) to make him a starl. I think Melo's tweet of "I am going to bed, goodnight" at draft day has a big part of making him even more hungry and dedicate himself in improving his game vs all his doubters.

I really hope we keep this kid, as great as Cp3 is, he wouldn't have the physical impact that Shump can do on both sides of the field. Having this guy work so hard in practice would push veterans, rookies, and all players on the team to work even harder, its very infectious. Even having him guard Melo in practice games would push each other. TD will have a lock down defender to pair up with. If we can get a A - B+ defender at center I think would improve our fast break, help defense, and team defense we really need. If Shumpert can become a PG and make good decisions, it will take the pressure of TD. He already can bring the ball up with ease with his physical tools: size, speed, and handle. Whether he can make good decisions, create for others, learn how to play with his team, and run the pick and roll has yet to be seen but will take some time together to gel.

I know TD gambled too much and was horrible vs Rondo, however he also didn't have a good center to back him up as well. I believe with the pairing of TD and Shump, the energy will not only feed of each other but the team as a unit. We still need a center to back them up but just imagine

TD
Shump
Shawne Williams
????
????

these 3 are probably going to start of the year off the bench. So I consider this to become a strong defensive 2nd unit, most importantly, a temple changer.
You know before Tyson Chandler as in Dallas, we saw how Kidd didn't have ability to defend any players with quickness, especially speedy pgs. But last year, how many people said
he was a great defender. My point is people tend to forget that there is team defense and one on defense. The importance of a shot blocker and defensive leader *KG* changes the teams confidence, mindset, and opponents ability as well.

I think this rook will earn the respect of his team mates and the eventually the league. He will get an invite to the slam dunk contest and make a run for it as well.
I really hope we do not make any major trades this year and just see what options we have during the off seasons. We have to analyze what we can expect from

Shump
TD
Jerome Jordan
Jorts
Fields
Brown

then fill in our needs and look for all opportunities to improve the roster. Decide then if depth or 1 all star player, or 2 - 3 quality players would be better.

If we can get Nash for the minimum, not only can Shump learn from CB but learn from one of the best PG's with NO PHYSICAL skills of all time, I am all for it.

1)Target Dwight Howard, without a doubt

depending on BRI and the new rules after lockout, if we have a realistic shot at signing him, leak it out to the media and ask these veteran players that want a ring b4 they retire.

Nash, KG, Ray Allen, Duncan, these aging one time all stars, that made plenty of money in their earlier years already.

if not look at all options and look to sign good deals.
See who is willing to take a slight pay cut to leave more room to improve the roster before we throw it all in for 1 contract.

Chris Kaman
Deandre Jordan
Matt Gasol

Younger Centers
McGee
Hibbert

or C+ Centers

Spencer Hayes
Mosgov

we have to look at all options and use the rest of our cap wisely. Look to spend whats left of our cap efficiently, see who is willing to take pay cuts...

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10/30/2011  3:42 PM
I'm almost positive that new rules will prevent NY from adding a 3rd superstar. We just need to develop the young talent around STAT n Melo. Iman could have Star potential and if ever get this season started we can see for real just what we have.
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10/30/2011  5:36 PM
Can't we just anoint them awards based on Video impressions?
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10/30/2011  6:41 PM
based on these videos, we are seeing that he has been working and training hard on his game. He doesn't even have a contract, not even sure if he is getting a check from the NBA. I am sure he is making something from Addidas though. Anyway, my point is we already see he is working HARD on his game all by choice. I am very much excited to see how he gels with the rest of the Knicks and on NBA competition. One word, DEDICATION! He is all about improving and looking forward to any one that ever doubted him.

We can see he also has great leaping ability, explosive first step, and has a nice form on his jump shot. He at least can stroke it during practice, I know its different from a NBA game. But you can see from his drills, he tires himself out and does a variety of drills and workouts. How can we not be excited about this kid.
He also has great size, length, handle, foot work, coordination, can take contact, and defensive mentality. His mindset is tough, mixed with his dedication on improving on his game.
He has the New York tough guy mentality that we have been missing since the Oakley days. Maybe Spree was the last one player the Knicks had with that mentality.

I am all in for Shump, no rookie has more physical talents, dedication, and defensive mindset, and a higher ceiling since Ewing.

Yeah, its probably unlikely to be able to sign Dwight but that would be a nice dream.

Only possible way for FA signing is having a couple of players versus the salary cap.

Amare
Melo

Balkmen
Shump

TD
Jorts
Jerome Jordan

these 3guys really don't make much, so it depends on what this new contract will be. Every dollar will probably make a difference and the 3rd star will probably have to take a slight pay cut as well. I wonder if one 2nd round pick would be enough to get rid of Balkmans one year deal. And TD should be very tradable for a future pick. If Jorts/Jordan show any skills
they should be able to trade them for cash considerations as well. So I don't think its fully impossible, it all depends on what the new cap would be set at.

I can't see the league making the Lakers pay the tax rate right away with the new rules. I think it will slowly take effect and they will be penalized for tax but not as heavily as the new agreement suggests, closer to the old one.
And a good question would be if Dallas would be able to resign Tyson Chandler.

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10/30/2011  6:44 PM
Nalod wrote:Can't we just anoint them awards based on Video impressions?

I cant exactly understand what you are trying to express with your sarcasm. Seriously, do you not see the ceiling for this kid? Are you not excited to see what he can do versus NBA competition?

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10/30/2011  7:09 PM
RonRon wrote:
Nalod wrote:Can't we just anoint them awards based on Video impressions?

I cant exactly understand what you are trying to express with your sarcasm. Seriously, do you not see the ceiling for this kid? Are you not excited to see what he can do versus NBA competition?

There are a group of guys that seem incapable of believing anything good about Knick prospects unless they see the kid play SL and if he kills it in SL they'll say its meaningless and we'll see pre season games expose him. If kills in pre season they won't believe it til he does it in regular season games... In the end he'd have to win ROY and even then they still might not be convinced. Look at how some still aren't sold on Fields.

In any event Iman is a legit sleeper draft talent! Many doubted him he should be taken even at 17! The kid wants to be great not just good. He's puttin in the work and that's how you become great so I'm happy we have him. I wanted him over Singleton and all the other guys that got so much more hype. I'm pullin for him.

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10/30/2011  9:30 PM

sarcasm employed by homer fanboy elevations extrapolating minimal video input into full blown opinions as fact.

I hope the kid is the real deal.

There is no evidence in the off season to garner any opinion as some have projected.

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10/30/2011  9:48 PM
I like the kids work ethic, but again, shooting over chairs, and five guys around him just throwing him the ball is not good.. I got chance to see starks practice a couple times, he use to shoot over a guy with a broom in his face waiving it..

we need Iman to be a point guard a big one, not the second coming of TD. the one thing we don't lack is scoring points..with billups melo and amare, shots for him will be at a premium..I'm more intersted in his IQ more so then his physical abilities.

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10/30/2011  11:48 PM
nixluva wrote:
RonRon wrote:
Nalod wrote:Can't we just anoint them awards based on Video impressions?

I cant exactly understand what you are trying to express with your sarcasm. Seriously, do you not see the ceiling for this kid? Are you not excited to see what he can do versus NBA competition?

There are a group of guys that seem incapable of believing anything good about Knick prospects unless they see the kid play SL and if he kills it in SL they'll say its meaningless and we'll see pre season games expose him. If kills in pre season they won't believe it til he does it in regular season games... In the end he'd have to win ROY and even then they still might not be convinced. Look at how some still aren't sold on Fields.

In any event Iman is a legit sleeper draft talent! Many doubted him he should be taken even at 17! The kid wants to be great not just good. He's puttin in the work and that's how you become great so I'm happy we have him. I wanted him over Singleton and all the other guys that got so much more hype. I'm pullin for him.

+1

truth is, its sad being a Knick fan. We have been through so many down and downers, we don't know when the boat will stop sinking. When we finally are moving back up, we still believe it will eventually sink. I really don't think we are over hyping this kid up this time though. I do not see him being a TD because he has the size, handle speed, length, strength, agility, first step, and works just hard on all aspects of the game, doing all sorts of drills. Probably only Westbrook has the size to guard him 1v1. I am not determining this kid on one video, I am evaluating him since before the draft till today.

He was my 2nd pick after Vucevic, and with the way he has been working on his game, I am happy we took him. I just pray we don't wind up trading him with Billups for Cp3 because it would make us too weak defensively.

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10/31/2011  2:44 AM
I think Iman is a kid that ended up on a college team that didn't help him to grow as a player and a team with bad coaching and not a lot of talent. As soon as he finished his time at G Tech he got right to work and hasn't stopped since!

You'd have to be blind not to see Iman's talent and drive. He was a 2 way player in college, expending tremendous amounts of energy and leading his team! Then he gets out of school and immediately gets to work on his weaknesses. What else do you need to see from a kid to prove he's legit as a propect? For guys like Nalod that make jokes about those of us who like the pick but all they have is negativity and no real rationale for why we shouldn't be high on the kid. Sure Iman could go on to be a flop. Any top prospect can flop but if you're looking for a kid doing things the right way Iman is a prime example! Like I said before the kid Wants to be GREAT and he works to be better. That's all we can ask given the situation.

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10/31/2011  6:49 AM
Iman is a great talent with great potential. Excellent #17 pick.

WHat about our other pick, Josh Harrellson? Very little news about him. Anyone have something recent?

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10/31/2011  7:53 AM
We'll see how good Shumpert is whenever the lockout is settled and he gets to play in games that count. So far, what we hear is all good. But he can't prove anything until we see him in a real nba game. He's obviously a good athlete and his shot seems better than expected. He sounds intelligent and seems to have a good work ethic. He also has the reputation of being good defensively.

So far, so good. But let's wait until he plays in an nba game, before we get too excited.

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10/31/2011  8:44 AM
Nix, you think he is the only rook who works out after being drafted?
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