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10/27/2011  10:21 PM
NBA labor deal 'within striking distance'
Posted on: October 27, 2011 9:56 pm
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The NBA and the National Basketball Players Assocation met for more than seven hours in New York City on Thursday, one day after the two sides spent 15 hours working to fashion a new collective bargaining agreement. No deal was reached, but there were plenty of smiles and quips to go around.

The talks, which are expected to shift focus from system issues to the split of Basketball-Related Income, will resume on Friday morning. Talks began at 2 p.m. on Thursday and lasted past 9:30 p.m., and included commissioner David Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver, NBPA executive director Billy Hunter and NBPA president Derek Fisher.

"I think we're within reach, within striking distance of getting a deal," Hunter said. It's just a question of how receptive the NBA is and whether or not they want to do a deal."

Asked if he might reveal some of the deal points, Hunter said he was not yet able to. "I'm hopeful that tomorrow we will be. Commissioner Stern is back there smiling, so I guess that's a good indication."

Stern then shouted out: "Tomorrow."

So, with this jovial mood and evident progress, why didn't talks go deep into the night?

"We've been here all day," Hunter said. "We've made little progress. I think everybody is pretty wiped out after last night. What we've decided to do is recess the process until tomorrow morning at 10:30 a.m. We're going to reconvene and hopefully spend as much time as we possibly need in hopes of getting a deal."

"We're working at it," Fisher said. "It's a tough process. As we move through and try to close the gap in as many places as we can, it gets tougher towards the end. Trying to be respectful to the process, not rush through it, come back later tomorrow."

"We would not have spent the time we spent here today without making some progress," Fisher added, "but as I just stated we are working through so many different issues, and we are trying to close the gap in each issue, as you try and make a move towards getting a deal done, it gets tougher towards the end. We have to continue to grind at it."

The light mood continued, for the most part, when Stern and Silver, addressed the media.

"I can't tell you we resolved anything in such a big way," Stern said, "but there's an element of continuity, familiarity and I would hope trust that would enable us to look forward to tomorrow, where we anticipate there will be some important and additional progress, or not."

Stern was asked whether he had a real and concrete idea of what a deal might look like.

He replied simply: "Yes."

Stern was asked whether he would consider it a failure if a deal is not reached in the next few days.

He replied simply: "Yes."

Both Stern and Silver made it clear that the discussion recently had been centered on system issues but would turn to the BRI split on Friday. The two issues are separate, Silver insisted, and thus not standing in the way of the other being resolved. "One goes to the overall economic health of the league, the second issues goes to competitive and parity," Silver said. "While we need to resolve both issues and both issues are critical, one is not dependent on the other."

Silver also then made a point to clarify that the system issues are not yet totally resolved.

Even so, Stern said that Friday could potentially be the deal-making day.

"There are no guarantees we will get get it done but we will give it one heck of a shot tomorrow," Stern said, "and I think that Billy and the union's negotiators feel the same way. And I know that ours do."

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/32969214?source=rss_blogs_NBA

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10/27/2011  10:27 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.
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10/27/2011  10:38 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.
I think this is legitimate. There were conflicting reports that Stern was going to cancel 2 more weeks and that he had guaranteed tnt and espn 82 games. I think as cryzymdups said, his absence from the meeting that blew up was planned on his part. Now that things have cooled down and a compromise needs to be made for everyone to make money progress is happening.
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10/27/2011  11:05 PM
They still haven't discussed BRI yet and aren't close on some key issues with the system.

Right now it's all talk to me until I see Stern and hunter come out together and shake hands.

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10/27/2011  11:14 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:They still haven't discussed BRI yet and aren't close on some key issues with the system.

Right now it's all talk to me until I see Stern and hunter come out together and shake hands.

I am hopefull. I don't know if you saw this. It isn't a handshake but it is a lot different from last week.

In a moment of levity that also pointed to the importance of Friday’s bargaining session, Stern chimed in from the back of the room during union executive director Billy Hunter’s news conference when Hunter was asked when the important, difficult moves would be made to finally close the deal.

“Well, David Stern is sitting back there,” Hunter said. “I think he can probably tell you. Hopefully, sometime tomorrow.”

And right on cue, Stern shouted jovially from the back of the room, “Tomorrow!”

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/32971739

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10/27/2011  11:42 PM
It's pretty obvious that the smaller group minus the trouble makers has been a serious negotiation. All the fanfare and sabre rattling is over. Neither side has been making threats or accusations in the media, so IMO this is close to getting done. Tomorrow or Saturday.

Interesting point is that the Luxury tax is about the top players in the league flexing their muscle along with the Big Market owners. They are actually on the same side. The Luxury tax doesn't really effect the low end player, but the small market owners are seriously pushing for a stiff Luxury tax, because it benefits them. BRI split is nothing compared to the Luxury Tax issue, cuz no matter what the BRI split is the best players will still get their money. They're not taking a paycut. That will come out of the rank and file players money. The Star players and their Agents don't want a stiff Luxury Tax and neither do the Knicks Lakers, Bulls, Celtics etc. In the end the Luxury Tax will be increased but not to the point where teams won't be able to add a Star if they want to.

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10/28/2011  12:20 AM
Billy Hunter and David Stern know what the deal is. Once they removed the "extremists" from each side things started progressing.

I bet the owners who have good teams let their voice be heard as well. I doubt Peter Holt or Paul Allen would be crying is Tim Duncan was still young or Brandon Roy had knee cartilage.

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10/28/2011  6:09 AM
Get this done!
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10/28/2011  7:48 AM
please happen!
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10/28/2011  9:15 AM
I will keep my fingers crossed - this would be phenomenal
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10/28/2011  11:46 AM
I'm with Childs2Dudley. I'm not holding my breath. We were close a whole number of times. It says nowhere that the sides are willing to budge on the revenue split and luxary tax hasn't even been discussed, as far as we know.

Anybody know if there is an agreement on small issues? I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope they raise the age limit.

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10/28/2011  1:40 PM
There's still a risk that Stern and co reach an agreement, that they then take back to the more extremist owners, who then reject it- that's what worries me at this stage. We'll see- hoping for the best though!
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10/28/2011  1:47 PM
All reports are that a deal is closer then most think...

Alrigh!! Alright!!

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10/28/2011  3:22 PM
Baseball is over TONIGHT! We need this deal to get done by this weekend.

Yay for basketball happening! Hip hip....

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