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Woodson talked to Billups before taking the job

Updated: Sep 16, 2011 12:52 AM
By Alan Hahn

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Chauncey Billups thought for sure that Mike Woodson would get the Detroit Pistons job. When it didn't happen, he then heard from the former Atlanta Hawks coach, who was an assistant coach on Billups' Pistons team that won the NBA title in 2004. Woodson asked Billups about the Knicks, who were searching for a defensive assistant.

Lawrence Frank was supposed to be the guy, but, in somewhat of an upset (all indications were that Joe Dumars favored Woodson), he ended up getting the job in Detroit. That left Woodson to consider the few options left and New York was certainly on the radar.

"I was happy he was even considering it the first time we talked," Billups said.

A short time later, Woodson called Billups again and told him he was going to take the job.

"When he told me he was coming," Billups said, "I was pumped, man."

But, in the midst of a lockout and the resulting no-contact rule the NBA has strictly enforced, that also meant one other thing: "Of course now I can't talk to him."

But he doesn't need to. You don't win a championship ring with someone and not know what they're all about. Billups said Woodson is "going to add so much to our team" and, yes, though the specific role will be downplayed, most of it will be at the defensive end.

"He had a lot of responsibility to our defense in Detroit and what we did," Billups said of Pistons teams that were annually one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. "A lot of film work we did with him, a lot of on the court drills and going through different situations, Woody led the charge with a lot of those things."

Woodson's philosophy, Billups said, was based on a simple attitude: "We're going to make people work to score. Help side is always going to be available and we're going to make them take the shot they don't want to take."

Billups suggested things will be better for the Knicks, who were routinely criticized for their defense, now that Mike D'Antoni has someone who can handle that responsibility and allow him to focus on what he does best: offense.

"More than anything, [D'Antoni] is a great coach, I've said that many times," Billups said. "Mike is an offensive guru, I think he's one of the best in the business. I think Woody coming in is just going to add to his staff because he's going to be able to continue to worry about how the offense is running and know he has a guy on the staff who is really in tune with what's going on at the other end of the floor."

But will D'Antoni, who doesn't subscribe to the Pat Riley School of three hour practices, give ample time for Woodson to work on the defense in practice?

"I don't think that will be an issue at all because one thing I know about Mike," Billups said of D'Antoni, "he wants to win."

Billups and I spoke for a little less than an hour on Thursday. He talked very candidly about the looming possibility of losing a chunk of his career-high $14.1 million salary this season if the lockout leads to missed games. You can read that story in Friday's Newsday.

Some other topics from the conversation that didn't involve money (or which NBA player will be this year's Shawn Kemp once the lockout ends):

* - He is currently at home in suburban Denver with his family and is set to leave Sunday for Las Vegas where he will spend the week at trainer Joe Abunassar's Impact Gym and participate in the organized scrimmages that are ongoing.

Knicks first round pick Iman Shumpert has caught everyone's attention in the games so far and Billups is looking forward to seeing the rookie -- and possible backcourt mate -- firsthand.

* - The left knee, which he injured in Game 1 of the series with the Celtics, is fully healed. Billups has been working out full court for two weeks. If camp was to open on time "I'd be ready," he said. But the fact that it took so long to heal was a concern. "If you remember, I thought I'd be able to come back and play in that series, man," he said. "Something I thought would take four days took four months."

* - Though he is ready if camp opened on Oct. 3, he didn't sound too excited about leaving home to spend two weeks with fellow Knicks at the minicamp Amar'e has arranged in late October at the IMG Basketball Academy in Bradenton, Fla. if the lockout is still going on. This will be a bit of a controversial issue, especially since this team is still relatively new with each other and needs all the extra time together as possible to develop chemistry and be ready to hit the ground running if/when the lockout ends.

"It depends on what I got going on with my family at the time," said Billups, who took the trade to New York hard because it meant leaving his wife and daughters back in Denver and living alone in a Manhattan hotel for the final two months of the season. "I'm using this time when I'm around, I don't want to miss no soccer games, no dance recitals. I have the luxury of being home and being around that, I'm going to take advantage of it."

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9/17/2011  3:40 AM
Really nice article. I have mixed feelings about CB. My impression is of a man who is at a crossroads. He no longer has BB at the highest levels in his life, which is what happens to everyone eventually. I wonder if he's going to be able to give 100% for this team at this stage of his career.

I get the feeling that this is going to be a serious team from here on. I think MDA and Woodson could be a very good combination if they both have a meeting of the minds and embrace it. If this team can sign a real C, I can see this team really being a top team this year. I'm actually happy with the makeup of the roster overall. I just think we will need CB to be able to really dig deep and be at his best and give his best. He may not be able to do it tho. Not if he's feeling the pull of family life.

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9/19/2011  9:38 AM
CB's going to have plenty of QT with the family anyway. Guy will probably spend most of the season (if there is one) on IR.
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9/19/2011  1:09 PM
Crush, do you live alone?
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9/19/2011  1:47 PM
Please don't use the forum to get dates.
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9/19/2011  2:10 PM
jrodmc wrote:Please don't use the forum to get dates.

Crush has a relentless spirit and was wondering if he lived alone or learned compromise.

I think Crush is really Isiah and is trying to use any angle, even if its just one fan at a time to sway the opinion of MDA.

If MDA is negative, it gives him a chance to come back!

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9/19/2011  3:13 PM
I hope the Woodson + MDA teaming works out for us. We really could use a dedicated defensive coach. I am also relieved that CB endorses the plan, because at his age he would be well-advised to go for it now, with this team. Might be his last chance.

Chauncey seems to have developed some wisdom over his playing years. There's no arguing whether that Detroit team was well coached. They worked efficiently as a team and won though they lacked any true super stars.

I hated Isaiah Thomas' Pistons team because I hated Isaiah and Laimbeer. They were thuggish and prickish (IMO). CB's Pistons were respectable winners and defensive dominators.

We desperately need a true Center to make this new system work. Bummer we gave up the Moz when we likely didn't have to. Melo can take the credit/blame for that. Him and Jimmy D. (and likely IT behind the scenes - snakes like tall grass.)

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9/19/2011  7:21 PM
Moonangie wrote:I hope the Woodson + MDA teaming works out for us. We really could use a dedicated defensive coach. I am also relieved that CB endorses the plan, because at his age he would be well-advised to go for it now, with this team. Might be his last chance.

Chauncey seems to have developed some wisdom over his playing years. There's no arguing whether that Detroit team was well coached. They worked efficiently as a team and won though they lacked any true super stars.

I hated Isaiah Thomas' Pistons team because I hated Isaiah and Laimbeer. They were thuggish and prickish (IMO). CB's Pistons were respectable winners and defensive dominators.

We desperately need a true Center to make this new system work. Bummer we gave up the Moz when we likely didn't have to. Melo can take the credit/blame for that. Him and Jimmy D. (and likely IT behind the scenes - snakes like tall grass.)

MDA has worked with other coaches before and so has Woodson. I'm confident that they both have enough respect for the game to find a way to make it work. Woodson won't come in looking to make trouble and it's in MDA's best interests to have this work and the team be successful. I think those that think MDA will be resistant aren't using logic here. It's still his team and to the extent that he can get this team to win big that will secure his future here and I think he wants to stay here.

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9/20/2011  12:27 AM
nixluva wrote:Really nice article. I have mixed feelings about CB. My impression is of a man who is at a crossroads. He no longer has BB at the highest levels in his life, which is what happens to everyone eventually. I wonder if he's going to be able to give 100% for this team at this stage of his career.

I get the feeling that this is going to be a serious team from here on. I think MDA and Woodson could be a very good combination if they both have a meeting of the minds and embrace it. If this team can sign a real C, I can see this team really being a top team this year. I'm actually happy with the makeup of the roster overall. I just think we will need CB to be able to really dig deep and be at his best and give his best. He may not be able to do it tho. Not if he's feeling the pull of family life.


always so negative!
If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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9/20/2011  9:19 AM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Please don't use the forum to get dates.

Crush has a relentless spirit and was wondering if he lived alone or learned compromise.

I think Crush is really Isiah and is trying to use any angle, even if its just one fan at a time to sway the opinion of MDA.

If MDA is negative, it gives him a chance to come back!

People like Isiah are never ever really alone.

They have the dog voices talking to them in their head, constantly.

And fans all over the solar system could be hailing MDA and the next coming of Phil Auerbach, and it wouldn't matter.
IT is coming back because widdo Jimmie woves his PocketLord. Dolan is a textbook contrarian; if the fans want MDA, you know he's just dying to pull the trigger.

Hahn: Woodson talked to Billups before taking the job.

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