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Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 am | 13 responses Nearly 70 NBA Players to Join Las Vegas Pro League

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

In light of the sobering realization that watching NBA basketball on time (if at all) next season is little more than fantasy at this point, agents, fans and media have thought of different ways that players could continue to play the game in organized, and lucrative ways.

Most solutions so far involve hastily-organized exhibition games here and abroad, streetball duels, and for some players, joining overseas teams on a temporary basis.

The latest idea comes from Impact Basketball, based out of Las Vegas, which is organizing a league comprised entirely of hoops pros. Nearly 70 NBA players are expected to participate.

Hoopsworld reports:

Impact Basketball, one of the premier basketball training sites in the world, will launch their own league in September. Unlike this summer’s popular pro-am leagues that featured a few NBA players on each roster, the teams competing in Impact’s league will be made up solely of professionals. Nearly 70 NBA players will compete in the league and plenty of stars will participate.

Rosters are still being assembled, but Impact has relationships with many notable players, which means this league has the potential to be very entertaining. Chauncey Billups, John Wall, Paul Pierce, Al Harrington, Corey Maggette, Kyle Lowry, Paul George, J.J. Hickson, Austin Daye, Jared Dudley, Dahntay Jones, Jermaine O’Neal, Craig Brackins, Marreese Speights, Eric Bledsoe, Matt Barnes and Manny Harris are among the players that have worked out at Impact’s two locations in Las Vegas and Los Angeles this summer.

Joe Abunassar, the founder and head trainer of Impact Basketball, confirmed that the league will kick off in mid-September, likely during the week following Labor Day. Two games will be played each day and the league is expected to last at least two weeks long. There is a possibility that the games will be streamed online.

This is obviously not a suitable replacement for nightly NBA hoops, and further underscores just how important the League’s marketing machine, TV deals, arena facilities, etc. are.

But it will give basketball fans a chance to quench their thirst while the lockout drags on

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/08/nearly-70-nba-players-to-join-las-vegas-pro-league/

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8/23/2011  4:52 PM
Special link for Nalod:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/08/nearly-70-nba-players-to-join-las-vegas-pro-league/

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8/24/2011  9:45 AM
A strong personality with the right contacts and some solid financial backing (about $400-$500 million) could create an alternative league to the NBA within a year. There are empty arenas in most major cities. You put a superstar on each team and give the players a percentage share of the team. Guys like Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade, etc. could afford to invest $10 million or so into the team. You find some venture capitalist to put up the rest of the money. While players would probably start out making only about 1/3 of what they could make in the NBA. Once the league is developed and the new league could work out TV deals, jersey sales, etc., the players could be back to NBA level salaries in 3-4 years. They would have more of an ownership stake in the league, would not have all the debt that current NBA teams have, and could bring more of an ABA feel back to the game. It would take alot of work and vision and it would take most of the superstars in the leage signing on to the deal, but it would be the ultimate F/U to Stern and his crew.
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8/24/2011  10:59 AM
TheGame wrote:A strong personality with the right contacts and some solid financial backing (about $400-$500 million) could create an alternative league to the NBA within a year. There are empty arenas in most major cities. You put a superstar on each team and give the players a percentage share of the team. Guys like Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade, etc. could afford to invest $10 million or so into the team. You find some venture capitalist to put up the rest of the money. While players would probably start out making only about 1/3 of what they could make in the NBA. Once the league is developed and the new league could work out TV deals, jersey sales, etc., the players could be back to NBA level salaries in 3-4 years. They would have more of an ownership stake in the league, would not have all the debt that current NBA teams have, and could bring more of an ABA feel back to the game. It would take alot of work and vision and it would take most of the superstars in the leage signing on to the deal, but it would be the ultimate F/U to Stern and his crew.
I agree. I think Stern is used to getting his way and he may have misjudged this situation. I think there is a pretty good chance that there won't be a season next year and that could create an opportunity to for someone to do something different as you suggested.
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8/24/2011  11:29 AM
Lets put some parameters around this idea and see if is feasible.

I'll start with 20 teams, 15 players per team. Using your 1/3 salary figure, and the average salary last year around 5M here is what we have so far.

300 total players with an average salary of 1.6M. So far you have burned 480M of you 500M seed money.

How much do coaches get paid? GMs? Who is going to put up 500M for 1 season with the threat that the NBA and players agree and that 500M is gone after one season with nothing to show for it?

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Andrew wrote:Lets put some parameters around this idea and see if is feasible.

I'll start with 20 teams, 15 players per team. Using your 1/3 salary figure, and the average salary last year around 5M here is what we have so far.

300 total players with an average salary of 1.6M. So far you have burned 480M of you 500M seed money.

How much do coaches get paid? GMs? Who is going to put up 500M for 1 season with the threat that the NBA and players agree and that 500M is gone after one season with nothing to show for it?

Call up 20 Russian oligarhs and they can put 1 billion each to compete with each other any day...

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Ball Don't Lie Wed Aug 24 11:55am EDT

Five ways to make a potential Vegas league worth a fan’s while
By Kelly Dwyer

Cynicism aside, the potential for up to 70 NBA players to create a series of teams that would take part in a mini-league in Las Vegas this September is intriguing. Hoopsworld's Alex Kennedy reported earlier this week that Impact Basketball is attempting to stage a tournament in Las Vegas that would feature solely NBA pros. That's enough to get the motor running.

Toss in the potential for a litany of NBA All-Stars to show up, many of whom have worked with Impact before, and the enthusiasm ramps up even further.

This is until you remember that, even with NBA rules and NBA players, it's still summer league action. And while the NBA-run rookie and free-agent summer leagues are a welcome respite in an otherwise dry summer -- and the all-out fun of the Drew, Goodman and Rucker leagues can serve as ice cream in hell for a starved basketball junkie -- something always seems to be missing.

Phoenix Suns forward Jared Dudley(notes), who has been the strongest voice thus far in attempting to round players up for this potential event, seems to think that NBA-styled rules are the answer. Here's what he told Hoopsworld:

"We'll play by NBA rules - have a 24-second shot clock and everything. You heard of the Drew League and Goodman League, but the difference with this league is that it's not a pro-am. There will just be NBA pros. It really gets guys ready for the NBA season. I'm excited every summer because at Impact, you only can get better. Now, the games are there to put what you learn into action on the court."

This is a step in the right direction, but even if actual (and recent -- Jermaine O'Neal(notes) doesn't count) NBA All-Stars take part, this could still turn into an affair that is hard to watch.

Literally and figuratively, because there are no takers at this point for these sorts of games on TV. ESPN, Turner and FOX Sports affiliates won't touch the event with a 10-share pole so as not to upset their NBA partners; and the ghost of Dick Ebersol's relationship with David Stern could prevent NBC from broadcasting the tournament on either NBC or its Versus Network. Remember, NBC still has to cull from ABC's and TNT's broadcast lineup to cover the Team USA outings at the Olympics. For now, the hope is to stream these games online for a small fee, which even in the era of Netflix and Hulu is still a tough go for pro basketball's most ardent admirers.

So how does the league make it worth a fan's while, even three months removed from the last NBA game, and potentially more than 13 months removed from the next NBA game?

1). Practice

After location, and a good breakfast, it's the most important thing out there.

Even the Team USA Olympic and world championship outings, though fun for spells, were mired by a lack of chemistry and unfamiliar teammates. Sure, the stars had their attitudes in the right place, but that doesn't mean a thing when you're expecting your weeks-old teammate to zig, and he decides instead to zag.

What better PR could the NBA's players take in than a series of stories showcasing both teams and individual players working out ceaselessly in preparation for a tournament like this? Especially if Impact holds some sort of training camp in Las Vegas and/or Los Angeles, where players would have their chance to ignore their fair share of distractions. The YouTube image of a chucker like Corey Maggette(notes) or a vet like Chauncey Billups(notes), dripping with sweat at 9 a.m. on a Tuesday morning when even half the NFL was out to 3 a.m. the night before could work wonders.

That's just on the propaganda tip. Though Team USA had a sound training camp to work with, those glorified All-Star teams are known for having too many generals, and not enough soldiers. Too many ball-handlers, and not enough people to set screens and move without the rock. It's not selfishness, but instinct. And a Vegas league featuring a series of role players (with role-player instincts) could go a long way. If the practices are well-attended, the minicamps would serve as the most important facet in developing the sort of chemistry necessary for good basketball.

2). Participation

I don't mean securing Kobe Bryant(notes), or bringing LeBron James(notes) in on a chopper. There has to be consistent, mindful participation from beginning to end in order for this to succeed.

Remember, this shouldn't be a trifle. The point of this exercise is, well, exercise. NBA players are going to be working out during this time anyway during any other offseason, with the NBA's training camp just a few weeks away. Why not get in shape against significant NBA personnel, while winning the war of words with the NBA along the way? Inevitable comparisons would then be drawn to the fat camps, of sorts, that were the NBA's "charity" games in the winter of 1998, when the players that showed up appeared as if they hadn't touched a basketball in months.

Not only should these players prep and then practice, but they need to stick around. Dudley is quoted as saying that this would be a two-week commitment, and that just goes for the games alone. If you have a wedding scheduled (and why would you that close to training camp?), don't bother. If you're going to take off on the weekends, don't come at all. A league is a league is a league, and though Impact will likely make every concession possible in order to secure name after name, they should at least attempt to get a commitment from each player (no matter how prominent) that lasts for the duration of the tournament.

And once the tournament starts?

3). Play the right way

God, what an insufferable line. It's not wrong, though.

Alley-oops are for 20-point blowouts. Twenty-point blowouts are for the dogs, and no fun to watch. Four out of 10 alley-oops in rookie-sophomore or All-Star games ever connect. That percentage, mind you, doesn't improve once you've thrown 20 or 30 alley-oops.

We don't want a slow-down, Larry Brown-affair. But there has to be balance.

Fans are going to tune in once their Twitter feed tells them two Vegas teams are about to enter the fourth quarter tied at 88. Even if these fans spent the first three quarters washing dishes from that night's dinner, they're going to spend the money needed to tune in, and they're going to tell two friends the next day about how worth it was to see competitive basketball between middling-to-great NBA players in the middle of September.

These sorts of games aren't built on foundations made of alley-oops and 25-foot shots. Sorry for acting the crank, but there's a reason the greatest of all time get to the line, work from the post or run the screen-and-roll.

Of course, the best help these sometimes-distracted players can get in this realm could come from a lone source.

4). Coaches

Who is going to run these teams?

This is a dodgy situation. I have no doubt that the trainers and NBA minds at Impact are more than adept at running team practices, saying all the right things, and diagramming more plays in a night than Kurt Rambis managed in a fortnight.

But this is where the tricky employee/employer situation comes in. Are these potential coaches going to give a cross look to John Wall(notes) after he breaks a play and a crossover goes wrong? You can't blame them for wanting to keep the clientele (or, potential clientele) happy, and their critical thoughts to themselves. After all, this is a publicity move for Impact.

High school and college coaches will be busy. NBA types (even tape operators and the like) can't say a single word to players without fear of a $1 million fine. So who is left?

The very, very angry.

There has to be plenty of disgruntled ex-NBA types who have no possible shot at another NBA coaching (assistant or otherwise) gig in their future who would jump at a chance to get back in the spotlight and run some NBA sets. You think John Lucas(notes) wouldn't want to be a part of this? Bob Hill's season with the Tokyo Apache won't start for another month, so why not bring him over? Ronnie Lester?

Hell, what about Adrian Wojnarowski? He knows the game, works with youth teams and doesn't mind a cold shoulder or two from the NBA. The staff is already in place. Marc J. Spears played the game in college, Johnny Ludden is the type of serene influence every bench needs, and I can hold a clipboard. I won't wear a sweatsuit, but I can definitely tell you that it's time, perhaps, for Eric Bledsoe(notes) to stop trying to break that press himself.

Jokes aside, these teams need a strong leader, and not someone to cackle with them as they try another half-court alley-oop. The watchability of these games likely depends on it.

And if all else fails?

5). Free balloons for the kids

Works every time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Five-ways-to-make-a-potential-Vegas-league-worth?urn=nba-wp7762

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