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NBA commissioner David Stern talks about the NBA lockout
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AnubisADL
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8/12/2011  4:53 PM
Source: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=6856992 (Audio)

Funny stuff. Donald Stern makes good points but I feel like the owners arent realistic either.

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nixluva
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8/12/2011  7:48 PM
Man that is one serious conversation. The issues facing the league and players are huge. I just don't like the claim that the league itself is losing money. It's not true that the entire league is losing money. Certain teams are losing money, but some teams are making a boatload. The natural flow of business would suggest that some teams will fail due to how they are run. Even a small market team can be run well and make money. The owners want too much back from the players. I don't see how they will readily give up all they have acquired by bargaining. I read that MSG had made something 450 mil the previous year. Just think about it. MSG is spending 850 mil to renovate the Garden. The league could revenue share on their own without asking the players to give up quite as much.
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8/12/2011  9:14 PM
nixluva wrote:I read that MSG had made something 450 mil the previous year.

Careful how you state this. MSG (the company) had revenue of about 435 million. The profit was actually 32 million.

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8/13/2011  12:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2011  12:32 AM
Andrew wrote:
nixluva wrote:I read that MSG had made something 450 mil the previous year.

Careful how you state this. MSG (the company) had revenue of about 435 million. The profit was actually 32 million.


I understand, but isn't it in their interests to find a way to understate the actual profit? This is where all the accounting tricks can come in. Besides, i'm sure with a team valued as highly as the Knicks that they have tremendous borrowing power too. Tons of cash flow is possible even if you list a loss. When it comes to big business I know they have tons of advantages in terms of how they represent their finances. Players don't have the same tricks. What they get paid is it and they have to safeguard that money cuz their career may not last. These owners have other income and I just don't believe them. There are always eager buyers out there for NBA teams and if the investment was as bad as the owners are trying to make it seem that wouldn't be the case.

Seems to me there some kind of mismanagement going on if this league had such a good year in terms of attendance and viewership. If owners had their accountants do the math during the last CBA negotiations why would they agree to such a split of the money if it wasn't possible for them to earn a profit? Something just doesn't make sense. Would you agree to a deal that assured that you couldn't make a profit or even break even? Remember now that these are BUSINESS MEN!!! This is their specialty not the players. Every time they negotiate the players are on the owners turf.

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8/13/2011  8:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2011  8:36 AM
The only response players should make when the league gives its BS about losses: "Sell the team if it's not profitable or keep the team and make better decisions with the team's money in the future."
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8/13/2011  11:04 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:The only response players should make when the league gives its BS about losses: "Sell the team if it's not profitable or keep the team and make better decisions with the team's money in the future."

Yeah I mean if a player blows all his money foolishly, he doesn't blame the owners. These owners are the ones controlling their own check books. Look at how smart the San Antonio, OKC and Portland have been. You can put a winning team together if you're smart. All of these owners are prepared to have losing seasons and a certain number of years of no profits. It's cyclical. Also if they want to revenue share, go ahead. They could do it just among themselves without having to kill the players.

NBA commissioner David Stern talks about the NBA lockout

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