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CrushAlot
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7/12/2011  7:37 PM
Knicks' Amar'e changes course on playing overseas
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Berman on TwitterBy FRED KERBER

Last Updated: 5:38 PM, July 12, 2011

Posted: 5:38 PM, July 12, 2011


More Print After saying he wouldn’t, Knicks All-Star Amar’e Stoudemire is the latest NBA star to say he would consider going overseas in the event of a long NBA lockout.

"It's not a definite thing that I'm not going to sign overseas," Stoudemire said Tuesday on ESPN Radio, getting his point across despite a double-negative.

His position goes against a weekend tweet in which Stoudemire claimed “Europe teams are calling, I think I'm going 2 stay here in the states. My loyalty is with the State of New York an the NYK's. Who's with me?"

Stoudemire’s agent, Happy Walters, declined comment until he could shift through all the particulars but a person close to Stoudemire said “all the guys are going to leave their options open.”

Nets star Deron Williams has said he will play in Turkey if the lockout continues.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/knicks_amar_changes_course_on_playing_JYdTRyeKh7zl7alAq7YeBJ#ixzz1Rw9xli3n

Does anyone know if Amare's contract could be voided if he gets injured playing overseas? With his past health issues I think this is a huge concern considering the length and amount of his contract.

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7/12/2011  11:02 PM
At least we know his heart is with NYK - I think this guy really loves being here and playing for this team. That makes him the real deal to me.
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7/12/2011  11:53 PM
any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Amare is like others that talk about it, but when push comes to shove he won't even play outside his contract.

Knicks are not even insured on those knees. Im sure he was told when he signed what the deal was.

Its news, its publicity, and its free. So some players use it.

These so called exhibitions are laughable. These guys barely play hard during the regular season let alone some bull**** no pay gig to sooth their egos!

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7/13/2011  12:12 AM
negotiating ploy. He can't get his contract insured
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7/13/2011  7:47 AM
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?
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7/13/2011  8:04 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?

I think there are stipulations. The tournament teams must secure insurance or the teams don't bless the player going. Good question but its my take that if they are playing for money or organized ball it could void.

Be good if we can clear this up.

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7/13/2011  8:17 AM
clearly - this is the union strategy at work here - he goes from saying he's staying to maybe he'll go.

If they want to be taken serious by the owners, the should work out a deal with NBC/Versus to broadcast European games featuring Americans & likewise work out a deal with enough leagues over in Europe to have enough Americans play there. I'm not sure the teams there could afford to hire many US players- but perhaps the US players could be the ones to negotiate the TV deal and keep that money.

This is short of what I've said to do - start their own league- but just the talk of it, and perhaps the motions to start and implement might be enough to pressure the owners to do a deal.

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7/13/2011  8:47 AM
^^^ I think that would be the easiest course of action. If Nba players could adapted an already existing league, how much money would it take.

There used to be a new ABA until they went under last year or a year ago. If lets say the NBA players made a deal the was very simple, the owners of said defunk teams kept what ever they charge at the gate and the NBA players kept the money from what ever TV deal they could make.................... could that happen???

That would send chill down the owners backs.

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7/13/2011  9:14 AM
I don't know why anyone who can afford to wait would bother going overseas. They should leave those jobs open for the lower level guys who have not made millions in the NBA. Those guys are the ones that need to work during the lockout. But I do agree that NBA players should balk at the owners' offer and go look for alternatives.
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7/13/2011  10:06 AM
The league locked these guys out of the practice gyms, training facilities, medical rooms etc.

If they want to play organized basketball they should be free to go wherever they please. This is just absolutely ridiculous.

They can stop the players paycheck, hold on playing games, but why this extra no use of facilities and no talking to management ****?

This is a dirty and unfair move to the players.

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7/13/2011  10:12 AM
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?

I think there are stipulations. The tournament teams must secure insurance or the teams don't bless the player going. Good question but its my take that if they are playing for money or organized ball it could void.

Be good if we can clear this up.


what contract would be voided? There are no NBA contracts for players. Right now they are just a piece of paper associated with an expired collective bargaining agreement.

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7/13/2011  10:23 AM
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?

I think there are stipulations. The tournament teams must secure insurance or the teams don't bless the player going. Good question but its my take that if they are playing for money or organized ball it could void.

Be good if we can clear this up.

If he gets hurt, we will likely void the contract and try to replace it with DH. Let's hope Amare is smart enough to realize he has more to lose than gain by going to Israel or Europe.

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7/13/2011  7:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2011  7:04 PM
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?

I think there are stipulations. The tournament teams must secure insurance or the teams don't bless the player going. Good question but its my take that if they are playing for money or organized ball it could void.

Be good if we can clear this up.

There are some concerns for players like Williams, who have lucrative contracts with N.B.A. teams. In theory, their deals could be voided if they are injured while playing abroad. Salaries are much lower in Europe and Asia, and teams sometimes fail to pay their players.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/sports/basketball/union-leaders-give-players-support-to-play-overseas.html?_r=1&src=tptw
From Beck's article.

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7/13/2011  7:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2011  7:47 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:any player hurt overseas voids his contract if the team so desires to void it.

Are you sure about that? Is your contract void if you get injured playing a pickup game over the summer?

I think there are stipulations. The tournament teams must secure insurance or the teams don't bless the player going. Good question but its my take that if they are playing for money or organized ball it could void.

Be good if we can clear this up.

There are some concerns for players like Williams, who have lucrative contracts with N.B.A. teams. In theory, their deals could be voided if they are injured while playing abroad. Salaries are much lower in Europe and Asia, and teams sometimes fail to pay their players.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/sports/basketball/union-leaders-give-players-support-to-play-overseas.html?_r=1&src=tptw
From Beck's article.


Childress said they fail to play their players. I don't know if he just had an uncommon situation or not. If a contract is suspended, it would seem that any clauses about injuries would be suspended to. I think also it would have to be a career-ending injury for a team to have any case in voiding the contract. If the player fractures an ankle and upon return is able to play but is less effective (like averaging 8 instead of 10 rbs/game), I doubt they'd be able to void the contract.
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7/13/2011  11:00 PM
Everything I read says in the case of an injury they COULD void it. The players in a sense become free agents.
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