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JesseDark
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7/10/2011  12:48 PM
I am coaching a team of 7th and 8th graders this summer and thought I'd share some of my observations. The thing that I've noticed the most is that no one wants to play with their back to the basket. From the tallest to the smallest they all look at it as a disrespect to their game. You'd think I was asking them to wear 80's style short shorts and shoot undernanded free throws.
The next game them hammer will have to come down. Anyone who brings the ball up other than the designated guards earns an invitation to sit beside me.
Kids at this age are frustrating and rewarding all at the same time.
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7/10/2011  1:05 PM
TEACH ON!
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7/10/2011  3:53 PM
Don't teach them the game by punishing them. If a kid who can't handle the ball brings the ball up it's because he doesn't know his role and needs to learn it through experience, not by being sat on the bench. This isn't the NBA, college or even HS ball remember, these are kids. You may, now and then, get someone who really knows how to play, but overall, kids aren't developed enough, at that age, to really know how to play. Basketball is an extremely complicated and hard sport.
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JesseDark
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7/10/2011  5:10 PM
Yeah, I've explained to the kid who should be bringing the ball up his role. I am more annoyed by the kid who wants to do everything. He happens to be the best player but if he brings the ball up everything stagnats. I've got to make him realize that if he is the recipeint of a pass insteat of dominating the ball the whole team is better
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7/11/2011  4:36 AM
As long as you don't teach them grammar, they'll be fine
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7/11/2011  4:56 AM
Teach everyone the up and under. It works wonders on likkle youts
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7/11/2011  5:52 AM
My guess is (1) they don't know or haven't been shown that and (2) no one ever gets you the ball at the age when you post up. I know this because at that age was over 6 feet (now am 6'4") and was made a center. It was infuriating because I never got the damned ball. On good teams I stayed in my role because the point got me the ball. On bad teams, I took my shots, even if it meant I was going Al Harrington on everyone's butt.

The best bet is to teach spacing, movement, and help them improve their fundamentals. Shooting, mechanics, and technique. If that goes well maybe teach a few moves (I guarantee your big man will work the post if he knew a couple of Kevin McHale's moves and your point will shoot some mid range shots if you teach him to split the double a la Mark Price--but that takes a certain type of 7th or 8th grader). I would say conditioning too but that assumes a certain level of competition. The worst team I ever played on was 7th and 8th grade travelling. The damned coaches had us running the triangle offense. Their sons were the guards. A regular bunch of MJs and Kobes .

Just be realistic and make sure your helping them achieve their potential instead of fulfilling the adults' dreams

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7/11/2011  7:40 AM
What level of play are these kids at? They a middle school team that will be together and play for their school? How does it come that this team is together?

And how much time to you get to practice?

Guess Im asking is how much can you teach them if they are not motivated to learn and they just want to have fun?
Sounds like your best player is a bit of "AR" and wants to do it all.;

Its a funny age, most of them don't have the core strength for a full jump shot and want to finger roll to finish layups.

JesseDark
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7/11/2011  8:10 AM
Thanks for this one, it is something I try to be conscious of, but it is good to see it here. (The part about the adult's dreams.)


They are at an age now we they can run an offense, if they listen. They plays are designed so the big guy gets his hands on the rock every possesion. The times that it has been run it works. I have the big man at the high post and want him to receive the passs and turn and pivot look for the guy down low or up fake and drive.(There are othe options.)
I've gone this route cause the wing players tend to not come to meet the pass. Things turn into a cluster fukk when the ball goes into the wing.

Al Harrington is a good analogy.

My guess is (1) they don't know or haven't been shown that and (2) no one ever gets you the ball at the age when you post up. I know this because at that age was over 6 feet (now am 6'4") and was made a center. It was infuriating because I never got the damned ball. On good teams I stayed in my role because the point got me the ball. On bad teams, I took my shots, even if it meant I was going Al Harrington on everyone's butt.

The best bet is to teach spacing, movement, and help them improve their fundamentals. Shooting, mechanics, and technique. If that goes well maybe teach a few moves (I guarantee your big man will work the post if he knew a couple of Kevin McHale's moves and your point will shoot some mid range shots if you teach him to split the double a la Mark Price--but that takes a certain type of 7th or 8th grader). I would say conditioning too but that assumes a certain level of competition. The worst team I ever played on was 7th and 8th grade travelling. The damned coaches had us running the triangle offense. Their sons were the guards. A regular bunch of MJs and Kobes .

Just be realistic and make sure your helping them achieve their potential instead of fulfilling the adults' dreams
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JesseDark
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7/11/2011  8:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/11/2011  2:22 PM
What level of play are these kids at? They a middle school team that will be together and play for their school? How does it come that this team is together? It is a mixture from "this is my 2nd summer league team" to "my sons never played basketball before." These kids are random and will not be playing together after the season.

And how much time to you get to practice? 1 hour

You are dead on with the comment about the core stength. They will get the rebound rush up court jack up a 3 and shoot an air ball.


Nalod wrote:What level of play are these kids at? They a middle school team that will be together and play for their school? How does it come that this team is together?

And how much time to you get to practice?

Guess Im asking is how much can you teach them if they are not motivated to learn and they just want to have fun?
Sounds like your best player is a bit of "AR" and wants to do it all.;

Its a funny age, most of them don't have the core strength for a full jump shot and want to finger roll to finish layups.

Bring back dee-fense
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7/11/2011  12:00 PM
I will be coaching my son's 5th/6th grade team this coming winter. It should be interesting. My son is a PG and the other coach's son is a wing. Will relate what I learn in this thread when time comes.

It will be my first hoops coaching experience and really looking forward to it. Don't really care about Ws and Ls, just want them to learn fundamentals and spacing. Will focus offense on getting rock to an open guy for a shot, some P&R (my kid has a great handle), and then BOXING OUT and grabbing boards, which is a skill that doesn't get developed early enough. At this level, controlling the ball is the most important thing.

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