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6/19/2011  11:44 AM

Board game: Is Faried a lottery pick?
June, 18, 2011 Jun 188:25PM ETEmail Print Comments10 By Peter Newmann and Dean Oliver
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Kenneth Faried was the best rebounder in the NCAA. Can he clean the glass in the pros, too?
Morehead State is a relatively small school, with about 9,000 students located on its campus in Morehead, Kentucky.

Kenneth Faried did his best to put it on the national landscape this past season.

Faried led the nation in rebounding in the 2010-11 season, averaging an astonishing 14.5 rebounds per game.
Kenneth Faried's NCAA Career
Year RPG Nat'l Rank
2010-11 14.5 1
2009-10 13.0 2
2008-09 12.8 3
2007-08 8.0 72


Farie'd's 34.77 Player Efficiency Rating (PER) also led the NCAA last season. (The average player has a PER of 15 and the second-best PER in his own conference was just 23.2.)

That’s usually a good sign. Last year, the top collegiate PER belonged to DeMarcus Cousins, who was the No. 5 pick in the 2010 draft and averaged 14.8 points and 8.6 rebounds in his rookie season with the Sacramento Kings.

If advanced metrics tell us anything about using collegiate statistics to help project future NBA success, it is that the single statistic most likely to translate to the next level is rebounding. And in Faried’s four seasons at Morehead State, he averaged a rebound every 2.37 minutes, the third-highest rebound rate in the past 30 years (see chart).
Highest Rebound Rates: Past 30 Years
Player Team RR
Shaquille O'Neal LSU 2.25
Keon Clark UNLV 2.26
Kenneth Faried MORE 2.37


Granted, Faried did this at tiny Morehead State, a member of the Ohio Valley Conference, but he had success on the glass against stiff competition, too, grabbing a rebound every 2.8 minutes vs. teams in major conferences. (Current NBA starting power forwards typically got a rebound every 3.4 minutes when they were in college.)

Faried also got a steal or block every 8.5 minutes at Morehead State. Against major opponents, he was only slightly worse, recording one every 10.0 minutes.

Those two statistics paint a picture of someone who can really do the dirty work.

Of the players who compare well to Faried, chances are that you know a few. How about DeMarcus Cousins, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Marion, Jerome Kersey or Antonio McDyess?

But it's Kersey to whom he might be most similar.

Faried's offensive numbers -- 14.8 points per game on 56.9 percent shooting as a senior -- don't jump off the page, but neither did Kersey's, who averaged 17.0 points on 57.0 percent shooting while grabbing a rebound every 2.6 minutes and a steal or block every 7.7. minutes for Division II Longwood before being drafted by the Blazers with the No. 46 overall pick in 1984.

If Faried ends up with a 15-year career like Kersey, playing rotation to starter minutes, is that worth a lottery pick? Probably so.
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6/19/2011  11:50 AM
IN the right situation this will be a good pick for a team.

I'd marry him up with a Kamen type center. Don't see him as a good fit with Amare from what I have read.

I think he showed some offensive problems in the knick workout. He has to run the pick and roll.

Dreads aside, he is a Turiaf type player who if healthy would be a great power forward/Center. Faried in a few year will be a great role player. Question is does he step in and contribute to one of our priorities?

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6/19/2011  12:51 PM
he's who I've advocated the Knicks draft since the middle of the NCAA season. He certainly is worth a lotto selection, especially this year, when there won't be significant drop off from five to 25
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6/19/2011  12:56 PM
Depending on who is there at 17, we might regret passing on Faried. The kid rebounded very well against good teams outside his conference. I have a feeling that his presence makes those around him better. The kid is a special talent. His offense might never come around that great but it's already better than Jeffries at finishing! I'll take that. eheh
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6/19/2011  1:19 PM
i like Singleton over Faried in that type of mold. more versatile and bigger.
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6/19/2011  1:19 PM
I think he is in the range of pick 20+, maybe even up to the early 2nd round.

at 6foot 6, he can only play PF. Size matters, look at what pick Dujuan Blair was selected...
I think he can develop in a good role player, unfortunately, he has the chance to be a bust as well.
All players are developed on potential and their development. But we can not predict how $ will the players mind, heart, and love for the game.
A lot of times the doubt and being picked later than they expected, pushes the player development and makes them work harder to develop to the player they can.
There are a lot of factors in the development of a player in the NBA, including the team, the players on the team, the system, the coach, the city, the fans.........

With that said, I don't think the Knick's have the center and system that would benefit in developing Faried.
Also, with the same reasoning, I think we all like the upside in Vucevic. He has been trained and has the genes both his parents to become a special player.
He has been influenced by his father, to eat and train as a baby. Playing 20 years as a pro and not being injured requires a lot of dedication and proper practice/diet.
He has played in the Euro League and has the concept of playing good team basketball with high bball iq and a more physical game as well, in USC.
I see Vucevic being a great rotation player for us now and the ability to develop even more. He can play inside and has a wet jumper, especially for a big man.
While we can still use an athletic body and a big body at center as well.

Sean Williams *d league*
Jordan *2nd pick*
Greg Foster *vet min*

these are 3 additional bodies that we can use at Center, very realistic chance at getting. While Dalembert will probably be the best option, he will be chased by half of the league.

Faried can become players similar to....

Balkman
Turiaf
Rodman
Ben Wallace

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6/19/2011  1:34 PM
Dudes are still talking about this guy. He is the size of a SF and he'd have to play center here.

I rather have a lineup of 2 way players than play 4 on 5 on the offensive end.

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6/19/2011  2:36 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Dudes are still talking about this guy. He is the size of a SF and he'd have to play center here.

I rather have a lineup of 2 way players than play 4 on 5 on the offensive end.


Faried measures out very well in other areas.


Morehead States Kenneth Faried measured just 6' 6" in socks and 6' 7.5" in shoes. However he has a 7' wingspan and a 9' standing reach.

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