ESPN's Chad Ford
Morris, Brooks, Vucevic and Shumpert in mix for Knicks at No. 17

For the past few weeks we've had Josh Selby going No. 17 to the Knicks in our Mock Draft. The Knicks have been on him for a while and think he could be the type of player who could blow up in the NBA. But sources say Selby struggled a bit in his first workout -- so much so that the Knicks have asked him back for a second workout. Selby may not be the lock I thought he was to go to New York.

We've also been targeting Morehead State's Kenneth Faried as a potential Knick. However, there's a serious question about whether Faried wants to go there. Faried is from New Jersey and apparently is worried that being too close to home could be a distraction for him. The Knicks are worried, too. It takes the right sort of player to make it in New York. Faried might not be the best fit.

So who do the Knicks take? I think Klay Thompson would be their first choice if he's still on the board. Don't count out Markieff Morris, Marshon Brooks or Nikola Vucevic, either. And you want a dark horse for the Knicks' pick at No. 17? The team really likes Georgia Tech's Iman Shumpert. That may seem a little high for Shumpert, but he's been quietly impressing teams in workouts. Given his size, versatility, defensive abilities and athleticism … he could sneak up this high.

Source: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

Apparently Selby didnt look so hot in workouts.

AnubisADL wrote:

ESPN's Chad Ford
Morris, Brooks, Vucevic and Shumpert in mix for Knicks at No. 17

For the past few weeks we've had Josh Selby going No. 17 to the Knicks in our Mock Draft. The Knicks have been on him for a while and think he could be the type of player who could blow up in the NBA. But sources say Selby struggled a bit in his first workout -- so much so that the Knicks have asked him back for a second workout. Selby may not be the lock I thought he was to go to New York.

We've also been targeting Morehead State's Kenneth Faried as a potential Knick. However, there's a serious question about whether Faried wants to go there. Faried is from New Jersey and apparently is worried that being too close to home could be a distraction for him. The Knicks are worried, too. It takes the right sort of player to make it in New York. Faried might not be the best fit.

So who do the Knicks take? I think Klay Thompson would be their first choice if he's still on the board. Don't count out Markieff Morris, Marshon Brooks or Nikola Vucevic, either. And you want a dark horse for the Knicks' pick at No. 17? The team really likes Georgia Tech's Iman Shumpert. That may seem a little high for Shumpert, but he's been quietly impressing teams in workouts. Given his size, versatility, defensive abilities and athleticism … he could sneak up this high.

Source: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

Apparently Selby didnt look so hot in workouts.

CrushAlot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

ESPN's Chad Ford
Morris, Brooks, Vucevic and Shumpert in mix for Knicks at No. 17

For the past few weeks we've had Josh Selby going No. 17 to the Knicks in our Mock Draft. The Knicks have been on him for a while and think he could be the type of player who could blow up in the NBA. But sources say Selby struggled a bit in his first workout -- so much so that the Knicks have asked him back for a second workout. Selby may not be the lock I thought he was to go to New York.

We've also been targeting Morehead State's Kenneth Faried as a potential Knick. However, there's a serious question about whether Faried wants to go there. Faried is from New Jersey and apparently is worried that being too close to home could be a distraction for him. The Knicks are worried, too. It takes the right sort of player to make it in New York. Faried might not be the best fit.

So who do the Knicks take? I think Klay Thompson would be their first choice if he's still on the board. Don't count out Markieff Morris, Marshon Brooks or Nikola Vucevic, either. And you want a dark horse for the Knicks' pick at No. 17? The team really likes Georgia Tech's Iman Shumpert. That may seem a little high for Shumpert, but he's been quietly impressing teams in workouts. Given his size, versatility, defensive abilities and athleticism … he could sneak up this high.

Source: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

Apparently Selby didnt look so hot in workouts.

Weren't the Knicks worried about Ron Artest being too close to home when they drafted Weiss?

Faried specifically said in his Draftexpress interview he wanted to go to Jersey. I think that's what is throwing us off about him and we're citing a different angle why we may not want him.

According to Draftexpress twitter Shumpert hurt his hip and couldn't even complete the workout in New York(I'm assuming we worked him out).

He must have written this article prior to his working out with us as DE gave the twitter update 5hrs ago. So knowing he was coming in today..... he decided to throw his name in the mix based on previous workouts

Come on FRAUD you gotta do better than this

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:Maybe the Shumpert injury rumor is a smokescreen. Maybe the Knicks gave him a promise and they don't want him to workout for anymore teams.

when i first read the Shumpert got hurt and closed himself down in workout I thought it may have been a smokescreen. We shall see if he works out for anyone else going forward.

Something definitely to keep an eye on. Shades of Amare scheming?

knickstorrents wrote:

nixluva wrote:

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:Maybe the Shumpert injury rumor is a smokescreen. Maybe the Knicks gave him a promise and they don't want him to workout for anymore teams.

when i first read the Shumpert got hurt and closed himself down in workout I thought it may have been a smokescreen. We shall see if he works out for anyone else going forward.

Something definitely to keep an eye on. Shades of Amare scheming?

Yeah have you seen this kid? He's a physical specimen and flat out beast at the PG/SG spot. Kids got guns and all kinds of explosion. Freakin 7' wingspan and 42" vert. If they saw that he could shoot and pass, i see no way they let him get past them. After enduring the awful defense from TD as Rondo abused him, that would be enough for Donnie to want to finally get a kid like Westbrook who he loved.

TD's poor defense isn't about his physical ability. He seems to lack the mental concentration and let Rondo blow by him for no reason several times.

Only way to judge defensive ability is to watch them in 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 drills. Physical ability is a baseline foundation but mental tenacity needs to be taken into account.

Killa4luv wrote:let the record reflect that i was the first person on this board talking about Shumpert. he is my #1 pick and has been for a while. i so hope we get him so chauncey can school him.

You have good taste! I was intrigued by his athletic ability, but I had read that he was really a bad offensive player, which seems not to be true. His defense could totally change this teams demeanor and defensive attitude. You get this kid and a real C to hold down the paint and this is a different team defensively. For those that are concerned about life after D'Antoni, Shumpert could be a very wise choice. A PG that can guard the 1-3 spot is something we haven't had on this team. I've always loved big PG's and he's a good one with freak athletic ability. He should have no problem passing to STAT and Melo with his size and length.

huh?

The only area Shumpert stands out is in steals. Clearly they are looking at this guy based on potential and a change of scenery. This is much like Westbrook coming out a few years ago. He shot up the boards at the end. I don't know, I think the Knicks should be more secretive with workouts - it really seems that we attract attention to players, perhaps due to having so much media here - it's like free scouting.

Anyway, I like the cat (based on potential). I really like Jenkins, R. Jackson and Morris as well (talking PG's).

nixluva wrote:The thing I like with a kid like Shumpert is that he's already a bigtime defender and he's a physical specimen. I remember reading how shocked the media was when seeing him amongst the other PG's. He was clearly bigger than all of them in more than one way. Then he goes on to post impressive measurements and athletic ability. I'm hoping that other teams don't change their view of him so that he's still there for us. He kind of reminds me a little bit of Tyreke Evans and Westbrook. I like other PG's in this draft as well, but if we're talking about addressing our need to improve defensively then why not take the best defensive PG in the draft, that also is very capable in other areas as well, plus a lot of upside.

I feel like we can't lose in this draft cuz there are so many good players that one of them will fall to us and if we get another pick we can add yet another useful prospect. This isn't you typical top heavy draft, but it's a solid draft IMO. We've gotta come out of this draft with 2 players. A PG and C. Don't know if we'll be that fortunate, but i'd be workin real hard to try and make that happen. Shumpert and Vucevic would be an A+ draft IMO.

i like the Tyreke Eans comparison, but the question remains: how good a basketball player is he? Is he a SG or PG? can he run a team? Can he get better?

Physical specimen aside, what's going on in his head? Is he Gerald Green or can he be better?