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martin
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6/8/2011  11:03 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/alanhahn/status/78425156011307008

alanhahn: Interesting to see that Deron Williams has now joined the CAA posse. Man, what are they thinking at MSG for getting cozy with this agency?

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6/8/2011  11:09 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2011  11:09 AM
Alan Hahn should STFU.

Dudes acting like CAA is the mafia or something. CAA has some high profile clients now. In a few years some other agency will have the big names.

People make is seem like these agencies are more powerful then they actually are too.

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6/8/2011  11:14 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Alan Hahn should STFU.

beat writer passing on some information. Maybe you should STFU with your crappy, I-am-entitiled posting

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6/8/2011  11:20 AM
it does seem like everyone is joining CAA.. Stoudemire isn't part of it is he?
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6/8/2011  11:24 AM
matt wrote:it does seem like everyone is joining CAA.. Stoudemire isn't part of it is he?

No. Happy Walters (or something like that) his agent.

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6/8/2011  11:40 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Alan Hahn should STFU.

beat writer passing on some information. Maybe you should STFU with your crappy, I-am-entitiled posting

lanhahn: Interesting to see that Deron Williams has now joined the CAA posse. Man, what are they thinking at MSG for getting cozy with this agency?

The first part was info. The 2nd part makes no sense. Getting cozy? What does that mean? So the Knicks shouldnt sign and players linked to CAA?

Alan Hahn has fallen off so bad it's sad. Dudes doesn't break any Knick stories either.

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6/8/2011  11:42 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Alan Hahn should STFU.

Dudes acting like CAA is the mafia or something. CAA has some high profile clients now. In a few years some other agency will have the big names.

People make is seem like these agencies are more powerful then they actually are too.

Is this your opinion or what you know to be true?

While its not a "link" to him becoming a knick it does lend some cred to the conspiricy of Calipari, CAA, the Knights Templar, Illuminati, Mark WinkyDink, and the Immobliary all wanting Dolan to be tight with.

While I get the logic of your comment you make it sound like you know somthing.
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6/8/2011  11:51 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Alan Hahn should STFU.

beat writer passing on some information. Maybe you should STFU with your crappy, I-am-entitiled posting

lanhahn: Interesting to see that Deron Williams has now joined the CAA posse. Man, what are they thinking at MSG for getting cozy with this agency?

The first part was info. The 2nd part makes no sense. Getting cozy? What does that mean? So the Knicks shouldnt sign and players linked to CAA?

Alan Hahn has fallen off so bad it's sad. Dudes doesn't break any Knick stories either.

You got to read it better and try to interpret.

There has been a lot of bad things said about the Knicks and MSG getting close to CAA (that's the background), so Hahn's remarks are in a sarcastic tone, suggesting that it may have been a good thing now that even 1 more high-level guy is signing with them.

BTW, Hahn was the first to really confirm the LeBron to Miami thing, not just in a wild guess kind of way.

Everyone has their own level of confidence with what is reported by whom. For me Hahn is decent.

This isn't a report about marbury that has nothing to do with anything. It's a tweet thing about a scrap of info.

Replying with STFU to a tweet info is about as low-level as you can get. Stop being a 13 year old in your replies.

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6/8/2011  11:52 AM
Nalod wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Alan Hahn should STFU.

Dudes acting like CAA is the mafia or something. CAA has some high profile clients now. In a few years some other agency will have the big names.

People make is seem like these agencies are more powerful then they actually are too.

Is this your opinion or what you know to be true?

While its not a "link" to him becoming a knick it does lend some cred to the conspiricy of Calipari, CAA, the Knights Templar, Illuminati, Mark WinkyDink, and the Immobliary all wanting Dolan to be tight with.

While I get the logic of your comment you make it sound like you know somthing.

CAA has been around for over 30 years and are major players in other industries. They recently got into the NBA and acquired some high profile clients.

More than likely Deron signed with CAA to get marketing deals and opportunities through CAA's extensive network.

But we can pretend that this means he wants to join the Knicks...........

Source: http://www.sports.caa.com/home.aspx

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6/8/2011  12:09 PM
martin wrote:
There has been a lot of bad things said about the Knicks and MSG getting close to CAA (that's the background), so Hahn's remarks are in a sarcastic tone, suggesting that it may have been a good thing now that even 1 more high-level guy is signing with them.

That's how I interpreted it.
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6/8/2011  12:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2011  12:27 PM
If I remember correctly, Deron has already stated that he would love to play for the Knicks. That doesn't mean he picked a new agency with a destination in mind. We can only hope that he is trying to better position himself for 2012, fearing that the wedding toast makes CP3 the supposed "front-runner" in being NY's third stud.
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6/8/2011  12:26 PM
man, what were the Knicks thinking in getting in good with the preeminent supplier of NBA talent
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6/8/2011  12:27 PM
Moonangie wrote:If I remember correctly, DW has already stated that he would love to play for the Knicks. That doesn't mean he picked a new agency with a destination in mind. We can only hope that he is trying to better position himself for 2012, fearing that the wedding toast makes CP3 the supposed "front-runner" in being NY's third stud.

it's a weird switch, no doubt.

CP3 is also with them, right?

I am trying to think of the advantage for DW to move to this crew (from a bball standpoint). Does it help him/Nets recruit more guys to NJ? Does it help him possibly move to NY or other?

CAA is already tight with the Nets.

Weird. unless I am missing something.

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6/8/2011  12:31 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:man, what were the Knicks thinking in getting in good with the preeminent supplier of NBA talent

haha. let's put it another way: It's weird that the average NY'er won't get in bed with the mafia what with their free flowing supply of money and hookers and other goodies.

It's not IF you get in bed with them, but what you do when you get in bed and if you wearing a condom and whatnot.

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6/8/2011  12:40 PM
CAA is becoming too powerful! They should be limited. I would like to see something in the new NBA collective bargaining agreement regarding agents and agencies. CAA is swinging the pendulum too far to the players side. Players used to complain about owner collusion (especially in baseball), but now we have players' collusion. Ex: Miami's big 3 all taking less money to play on the same team so they can win.

Come 2012, when CAA controls both Deron and CP3 bargaining, then interested teams will be in a hole. They can't freely negotiate. CAA will know what all of the teams are offering and set the salaries. Teams lose their free market bargaining rights.

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6/8/2011  12:41 PM
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:man, what were the Knicks thinking in getting in good with the preeminent supplier of NBA talent

haha. let's put it another way: It's weird that the average NY'er won't get in bed with the mafia what with their free flowing supply of money and hookers and other goodies.

It's not IF you get in bed with them, but what you do when you get in bed and if you wearing a condom and whatnot.

I love hookers and other goodies

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6/8/2011  2:05 PM
Markji wrote:CAA is becoming too powerful! They should be limited. I would like to see something in the new NBA collective bargaining agreement regarding agents and agencies. CAA is swinging the pendulum too far to the players side. Players used to complain about owner collusion (especially in baseball), but now we have players' collusion. Ex: Miami's big 3 all taking less money to play on the same team so they can win.

Come 2012, when CAA controls both Deron and CP3 bargaining, then interested teams will be in a hole. They can't freely negotiate. CAA will know what all of the teams are offering and set the salaries. Teams lose their free market bargaining rights.

Deron and CP3 are BOTH max guys, so teams trying to sign them never had "free market bargaining rights". There's no negotiation for that level of player, just wooing. Still, I agree with your main point that CAA holds too much leverage for the league's own good. Something's got to give.
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6/8/2011  3:42 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
There has been a lot of bad things said about the Knicks and MSG getting close to CAA (that's the background), so Hahn's remarks are in a sarcastic tone, suggesting that it may have been a good thing now that even 1 more high-level guy is signing with them.

That's how I interpreted it.

Dolan has a rep of treating his players monetarily quite nicely. He has thrown lots of money at the team trying to achieve sucess. The CAA is gaining ground representing the top talent. I'm sure Jimmy's money smells quite green to them

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6/9/2011  11:11 AM
MSG and Cablevision are entertainment companies and the knicks are a home grown source of content for its network.

The playoffs are shown on a national network and not as lucrative for MSG.

The Gate is importnat for the playoffs as is the playoffs big for building the brand up.

The CBA Is going to havea stoppage to put an end to this collusion and make sure teams don't get hurt. Franchise tags on players can stop this. The owners mostly have to protect their franchise value. If Deron leaves the nets are screwed. LEbron leaving hurt cleveland but cleavelend did not trade for LEbron so the rebuild is easier for them.
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6/9/2011  12:48 PM
I heard it was between CAA and Jeff Schwartz. I'd go for being Schwartz's biggest client rather than being lost in the sea of CAA's guys. You know Deron's going to get max money for max years, but why not get max attention from your agent and agency as well. If he's in NYC (Nets or otherwise) he'll be freaking huge and making all sorts of cash from national and local endorsements and it's not likely that CAA will be of any more benefit than Schwartz. It's just too bad that he's not really an option for the Knicks. He's not likely to turn down or away from a max deal and the Russian won't be trading him to the Knicks. This is not to say Williams won't get traded in a either a sign and trade or Melo like situation where he's still able to sign a new max deal once he lands in his new city, it's just that the Nets won't place him in Manhattan.
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