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martin
Posts: 76215 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/1/2011 8:03 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/
They updated their mock today. I think these guys have the best read on the draft.
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DJMUSIC
Posts: 22906 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/30/2007 Member: #1283 |
6/1/2011 8:38 PM
This guy and the highlights shown seem talented
What bugs me is I dont see anything on the shotblocker or defender end the pick has D'Antoni inputs written all over it. A scorer first before ANY other facet. He is talented but what can Knicks expect ? with one sole #17 pick Turntable Musiclover & Mix-Master-ologist
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Sangfroid
Posts: 24681 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/7/2009 Member: #2784 |
6/1/2011 8:49 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Draft Express always has the best Mock Drafts. Have to agree with you.(Although, i'm in deep prayer to the basketball gods to make it so I then go into immediate UK mode and want to know what's wrong with him if he does. "We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
6/1/2011 9:21 PM
Correction - Donatas Motiejunas is from Kaunas, Lithuania, not Italy. He played for Benetton Treviso, which is based in Italy.
The Answer Man had him on the radar screen last year. (nbadraft.net) Strengths: Versatile lefty bigman with a high ceiling ... Has a lot of potential due to his size, agility and offensive development ... A finesse 4-man with excellent versatility, but shows the toughness to play inside with contact ... Shows a strong ability to run the floor and change directions, start and stop ... Has great legs (strong) and feet (quick) ... Has inside/outside ability with the ability to defend inside and play with his back to the basket, as well as knock down shots on the perimeter ... His outside shot has both range and consistency, and he has begun to develop some excellent moves including a jump hook, a turnaround fadeaway as well as fakes to draw opponents off their feet and excellent footwork ... Shows a competitive fire. He has a strong desire to win and improve, he just needs to show that at all times ... Gets off the floor quickly and has solid explosiveness ... A solid shot blocker ... Comfortable handling the ball when necessary to break the press and has solid vision and passing ability ... Has a very good body and appears that he will be able to add upperbody strength and become a solid rebounder and interior post player at the NBA level ... Weaknesses: Is extremely talented and he knows it. At times he doesn't keep the pedal to the metal, exhibiting some lapses in focus and intensity (laziness) in practices ... Sometimes appears content to be better than others without dominating them the way he's capable ... That's the type of thing that he'll need to mature out of, learning to work hard at all times in order to reach the stature of a Gasol or Nowitzki ... Still needs to add polish on his moves on the perimeter but has excellent potential to do so ... Has thin arms and upperbody, although he has solid strength. He'll need to get stronger to contend with NBA bigs ... Solid length (6-11 wingspan) but nothing extraordinary ... Not as experienced or established as other European talents (such as Gasol or Nowitzki) were when they entered the NBA. If he is there Donnie will think about it. once a knick always a knick
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/1/2011 9:40 PM
Hey man I loved the soundtrack on those videos
 What language was that?The kid looks good, tho it would be hard to see Donnie going for him. We don't really have need of a kid like him right now. Tho I can understand going BPA and taking him for that reason. He's already a better post player than Gallo. He looks far more comfortable inside. |
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Nalod
Posts: 71155 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
6/1/2011 9:42 PM
Sangfroid wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Draft Express always has the best Mock Drafts.
Then when he is out of the dog house, add him as a throw in for any trade for Chris Paul. |
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
6/1/2011 9:49 PM
He looks talented, but three things that legitly scare me. 1) Since he's a good 3 point shooter, it would suck ars if he got stuck behind the line all the time, since Melo and Amar'e are taking most of the shots. 2) Lapses in concentration = No bueno. 3) When's he getting the ball?
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/1/2011 10:18 PM
Let's face it no kid that is perfect is gonna last til 17! There would have to be some questions or else he'd be a higher pick. The magic of drafting is doing your homework and taking a calculated risk. The kid is in need of bulking up and gaining strength. Who knows if he'll be able to put on the needed strength, but he has a ton of ability and skill. Love that he has such great passing skills for a big.
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
6/1/2011 10:23 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:He looks talented, but three things that legitly scare me. 1) Since he's a good 3 point shooter, it would suck ars if he got stuck behind the line all the time, since Melo and Amar'e are taking most of the shots. 2) Lapses in concentration = No bueno. 3) When's he getting the ball? I don't see many future starters sitting at 17. His #1 issue seems to be his small frame. I don't see him packing on the pounds. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/1/2011 10:27 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:He looks talented, but three things that legitly scare me. 1) Since he's a good 3 point shooter, it would suck ars if he got stuck behind the line all the time, since Melo and Amar'e are taking most of the shots. 2) Lapses in concentration = No bueno. 3) When's he getting the ball? I'd rather take a chance on a kid like Jeremy Tyler. He's got C size and length and the athletic ability to go with it. His job would be to hang around the boards and he's built to do that. If this was a team that already had a banger inside then i'd see taking a high upside kid like Donatas. Tyler would actually have a chance to play at C. |
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ATrain
Posts: 21487 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2010 Member: #3192 |
6/1/2011 11:00 PM
I say you take him if he is available at 17. But we need more picks. This draft has too much potential for us to only be picking once.
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
6/1/2011 11:02 PM
ATrain wrote:I say you take him if he is available at 17. But we need more picks. This draft has too much potential for us to only be picking once. We don't need more picks. This draft is filled with alot of scrubs. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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knickstorrents
Posts: 21121 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/23/2010 Member: #3050 Hong Kong |
6/1/2011 11:11 PM
From the highlights I like this guy.
And Anubis, you always get more picks if you can, rookie deals are the best deal in basketball. Rose is not the answer.
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Killa4luv
Posts: 27769 Alba Posts: 51 Joined: 6/23/2002 Member: #261 USA |
6/1/2011 11:56 PM
ok so a team devoid of defensive stoppers, shot blockers or rebounding should draft a kid who is poor in all of those areas? i really dont get it. if you want to go tall and long with good skills and shooting for a big u go for Jajuan johnson who imo will be one of tje best kids to come out of the draft. he can rebiund is super athletic and he blocks shots. or keith benson.
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martin
Posts: 76215 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/2/2011 12:06 AM
misterearl wrote:Correction - Donatas Motiejunas is from Kaunas, Lithuania, not Italy. He played for Benetton Treviso, which is based in Italy. dammit man, you ruined the possibility of so many thread bemoaning the influence MDA would have had on the pick and why his connections back to his second country sucked. Plus you ruined my thread-title mojo Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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knickstorrents
Posts: 21121 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/23/2010 Member: #3050 Hong Kong |
6/2/2011 12:16 AM
Killa4luv wrote:ok so a team devoid of defensive stoppers, shot blockers or rebounding should draft a kid who is poor in all of those areas? i really dont get it. if you want to go tall and long with good skills and shooting for a big u go for Jajuan johnson who imo will be one of tje best kids to come out of the draft. he can rebiund is super athletic and he blocks shots. or keith benson. Did you see the first few seconds of the highlights? It's all him blocking shots. Rose is not the answer.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39877 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/2/2011 12:32 AM
I'm a little worried about the fact that this kid's stock keeps dropping. He was a top 5 pick two years ago. That said, he has nice bounce in his legs and he seems confident. I like his game, but we don't anymore wings at this point. That said, we would probably be the best player available if he's there at 17.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
6/2/2011 12:35 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:I'm a little worried about the fact that this kid's stock keeps dropping. He was a top 5 pick two years ago. That said, he has nice bounce in his legs and he seems confident. I like his game, but we don't anymore wings at this point. That said, we would probably be the best player available if he's there at 17. His stock keeps dropping because he doesn't have the "potential" label. Everyone always overvalues the unknown. I don't think it is a knock on his skillset DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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