Sometimes tough love is ok.

sometimes real fans can speak out.

Beating down views you don't like is not being a fan, its being a MOB.

Ignoring or argueing the fine points is cool.

Some views are just ignorant. Ignore the ignorant.

Those whom think we mortgaged the future for a short term buzz, might be right in the long run. We'll never quite know. The short term results are coming in good, which a 6 weeks ago was unknown. Had the team continued to flounder, even with Marbury, the dialog could go either way.

The "haters" are quiet because its working for now. Even KVH had a nice streak going and nobodys bashing him. Winning cures most things.

No spree talk either! Things really going good.

Its good to see Knicks and Nets both winning. A conference final with those two would be exciting. Marbury-Kidd series would be fun to watch! Deke and KVH against the old team! Maybe Childs could slim up and make an appearence!

We got the knicks fixed up, now what we gonna do about St. Johns hoops! 5th winningest school in NCAA history! Lose by 20 to Pitt, and I guess the best you can do is get a train going? I enjoyed being on team, but not slopping up on a train with the boys on some skank hoe!

you can be the biggest knick fan and want improvements, dont be a dope.

if you don't want a better post player, i'd say you're not a good fan because you dont expect excellence. you sound like one of these bush people--criticism is unpatriotic--yea its really responsible to just let things go without demanding excellences, lol. if it wasn't for us "haters" as you ignorantly call it, layden and fatterspoon would still be here.

All I have to say is KUDOS to Lenny, Isiah, Marbury, Keith Van Horn, KT and the entire team. Real props.

I thought Marbs was going to be a cancer here - he hasnt been (so far).

I thought Thomas did give up too much to get Marbury - but who knows, no one knows until we see what those draft picks produce and what Lampe and Milos do. It was time for Ward, Dyess and everyone else to roll out of here anyway, especially Eisley (who has been decent for PHX, but AWFUL for nyk).

I thought Lenny was done too, but clearly, the old man has some game left.

Again, the Knicks can compete with anyone in the Eastern Conference and should kick some @$$ and take some names in the post-season. Anything less than such would be a disappointment.

The Knicks are actually really exciting again. I never thought adding a guard could do this for us, but I guess every sucesssful team has a franchise player. I guess when you do add an All-Star and you replace an incompetent coach like Don Chaney, with a good one, only place to go is up.

BTW, I haven't seen playa give props to Wilkens like he said he would.

Posted by Nalod:

WIth discount firings of coach's, Lenny really got a bad deal in toronto, and did a good job. He was cooked his last year there, not really his fault. I think NBA coach's get burnt out fast also.

Very early to see if Lenny can continue this. By that I mean many teams respond well to change, especially when you add in a talent without giving up much present players.

Also, in a good system, KVH has looked good with rebounding. Isiah did compliment KVH the other day (sorry hardcore) that anyone averaging 8 rebounds in the NBA is not soft.

Good coaching should make existing players better. Lenny still needs to get his arms around frank, and I do think Shandon should get minutes when Penny is not effecive or his knees are creaky.

Benching KVH was good as it shows our team is getting deep. If a player is not up to par, hurting, or injured, we have a bench to compinsate. And this point is huge, that no player (except Marbury) can be out there and not perform will be allowed minutes. Its not punishment thing as fouls and bad nights will happen, but nobody gets a free ride. Pull the injury card like Anderson did, then you might go on the IR!

Yea like when Frank went to Lenny about playing time, he gets sent home with SINUS INFECTION huh? Some still are decieved.

Posted by nykshaknbake:

The Knicks are actually really exciting again. I never thought adding a guard could do this for us, but I guess every sucesssful team has a franchise player. I guess when you do add an All-Star and you replace an incompetent coach like Don Chaney, with a good one, only place to go is up.

BTW, I haven't seen playa give props to Wilkens like he said he would.

YOU SHOULD READ MORE THEN YOU CAN OPEN UP AND ADDRESS ME SON.

Posted - 02/08/2004 : 21:34:36
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That was one "AWESOME" performance by Starbury tonight! Lenny you get props for winning 5 straight games. Those 3ptersbehinfd the arc had guys saying what the *#@$

My bad, but the way you are busting him now made me think you never did. I guess you still don't think he's an upgrade over Chaney?

Posted by playa2:

OF course he's an up grade over chaney, anybody knows that. You along with other let hardcore convince you that i was in love with chaney and layden , when all I was doing was backing the knicks regardless of who was coaching or calling the shots. YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

Once again, It's all about HARDCORE, huh? Y'all cats are too funny.
Son, the newbie may not know you, but many of us have heard your twisted rhetoric too long not to know how ya punk azz gets down.
Don't try to duck your membership in the LayDown & Chaney Fan Club now. If you were real about yours like a REAL Knicks fan, you'd be man enough to say you were wrong instead of punkin' out like a sissy. Stop the chump moves, bullying newbies like you got clout and whatnot.

I don't have to convince anyone that you bigged up LayDown and Chaney non-stop. A newbie or anyone else who wants to peep your card can just check the archives and read with their own eyes to realize how much of a blabbering hypocrite you were then, and are now.

Lastly, this is the NO HATERS thread. All the ruckus that you get brought on ya shows why.

Posted by playa2:

Core i don't need to get with your program I stand alone.

Damn straight you stand alone...

Alone...

In the corner of the room...

With your Dunce hat on. LMAOOOOO!!!