Olbrannon wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

MinsHeartsReezy wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:On the Toney Douglass "Tripping" fiasco that the doe-doe fool references gift wrapped to Celtics for freeing Ray Allen
uncontested winning shot.

Check out this you tube play and realize why Kevin Garnett is good but DIRTY player whom all things goes well for the old and green

KGarneet "Dirty trip" Of Toney Douglass: GAME 1 Celtics 87 Knicks 85 loss

*Later
Gotta a plane to catch out of USA
The DJ

This Clip just makes me feel disgusted..Honestly I wouldn't expect this call. But if you don't call this you don't call the Melo Offensive Foul for same reason..it's the damn playoffs. I blame Toney for this..Derek Fisher would not fall on a play like this..You just can fall. Same reason I hate Greg Anthony for that Reggie Miller 7 point run..although he got pushed in the back you just can't fall.

I understand your frustration but when some one clearly intentionally puts their leg into your knee while you're running and then pushes you with his elbow and body, a much bigger body at that, you don't have much choice in the matter of whether you fall or not. Gravity isn't a choice, dirty play however, very much is. Disgusting is right. TD's lucky he didn't get hurt on the play.

LOL..yeah pretty dirty and blatant trip and push with extension. NBA refs stink so bad sometimes.

Trip hell that's a takedown.

Lucky TD did not get injured. That is the type of "pick" that put out Billups for some games.

Paladin55 wrote:

matt wrote:We can beat these guys.. Celtics were lucky to steal this one.. Game 2 is a knick win

Don't know about Game 2, but...

this was our game to steal... it was in our hands. Now we have a less than 100% Billups to worry about.

Too much 1/1. Worked for Amare, did not work for Anthony, who chose the wrong time to have this kind of game.

I'm actually less confident moving forward. When you are playing on the road in the playoffs and you put yourself in position to steal one, you absolutely have to win the game. Road wins in the playoffs are hard to come by. We blew it with this one. Might not get another chance.

The refs were awful and some of the shot selection (especially by Carmelo Anthony) was eyebrow-raising to say the least.

The offensive foul call at the end..the refs and Stern have destroyed the NBA. I don't really want to comment on such a ****ty, rigged call. The ref is looking directly at the play and he sees what is going on and instead of a no-call he calls an offensive foul. Just another example of why the NBA has the worst referees of any sport in the world.

What was that shot by Carmelo Anthony at the end? Double teamed and heaving a 3-pointer with 8 seconds left? Pass the ball or drive it. What are you doing? And what's with the 3's? Is D'Antoni going to reign this guy in? Does he think he's Glen Rice all of a sudden? This is not his game. He needs to stop taking so many damn 3's. His Knick playoff debut left a lot to be desired.

Amar'e Stoudemire did everything that was asked of him. What a great game by him. The true leader of the team and team MVP. This guy went out there and actually attempted to play defense, rebound and dominated the Celtics on offense. Some of his plays tonight were "play of the year" material. You couldn't have asked for a better Knick playoff debut from this man.

Jared Jeffries must give Mike some good head on the airplane because there is no other reason why he still plays. The man is useless, bloody useless. His defense is ridiculously overrated and today he's wide open on a pick and roll and the ball goes right through his awful hands and out of bounds. Why does he still play? He can't even rebound and we were getting killed on the offensive glass. Play Shelden Williams. PLAY SHELDEN WILLIAMS. For the love of God, man. Jared Jeffries is not an NBA Player.

Chauncey Billups wasn't really doing much. His shot was off...and now he's injured. I sincerely hope it's nothing serious. This seems to be becoming a trend with this guy. With his advancing age we may be seeing him on the bench injured more often than not. It's sad because he can help us. I would have felt way more comfortable with a 3-11 Billups taking the last shot rather than Carmelo Anthony. At least Billups is a 3-point marksman. Carmelo shot the 3 well for 10 games and thinks he is Steve Kerr's nephew.

Anthony Carter was solid as always tonight, Toney Douglas was OK, Bill Walker was decent and everyone else was forgettable.

This is the type of loss that kills a teams' spirit. I don't know how we will react after this game. If they take it to heart like I - and many others still are - then they lose Tuesday and lose the entire series. That's how big of a game it is. Not everyone can take a kick in the nuts loss, especially when you are the underdog. I hope they come out and recover from this painful loss because they are not winning the series if they leave Boston down 2-0.

nixluva wrote:these refs have to get it together and stop allowing the C's to get away with murder, tho I don't expect to get a better whistle. Knicks just have to play thru the bogus calls and no calls. This loss doesn't really bother me. I think the Knicks know now that they really can beat this team. We didn't get a typical Melo game and I expect that we'll see that. The GREAT NEWS was STAT looked great!!!!

We need to speed things up just a bit and get into the paint more on the C's. I think that will happen. The C's don't have a lot of shot creators and they're not a great shooting team outside of Allen, KG and Pierce. If you play up on those guys you can hold them down. I thought overall the way we played Rondo was pretty good. We just need to get our offense fixed just a bit and I think we can beat the C's.

Of course the other side of the coin is the Celtics know they can beat us by only playing hard for half the game, and could theoretically crush us if they played well start to finish.

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:these refs have to get it together and stop allowing the C's to get away with murder, tho I don't expect to get a better whistle. Knicks just have to play thru the bogus calls and no calls. This loss doesn't really bother me. I think the Knicks know now that they really can beat this team. We didn't get a typical Melo game and I expect that we'll see that. The GREAT NEWS was STAT looked great!!!!

We need to speed things up just a bit and get into the paint more on the C's. I think that will happen. The C's don't have a lot of shot creators and they're not a great shooting team outside of Allen, KG and Pierce. If you play up on those guys you can hold them down. I thought overall the way we played Rondo was pretty good. We just need to get our offense fixed just a bit and I think we can beat the C's.

Of course the other side of the coin is the Celtics know they can beat us by only playing hard for half the game, and could theoretically crush us if they played well start to finish.

The one thing we miss from not having Felton is the end to end speed and pushing the ball regularly. Not to mention that he was the best we had to run PnR.

1. that game was the one we could steal. we missed our opportunity.

OR

2. that game barely scratched the surface. if melo and billups don't **** the bed, we win it in a laugher. plus, the refs jobbed us. karma will restore balance.

i mean, can you believe the knicks played a ball-control, half-court, defensive game -- totally playing to the celts strength -- and they still had the game in hand if not for two bogus fouls?? also, how defiant of our guys to deny D'Antoni's pleas to not play defense. haha :p

eViL wrote:that one sure did hurt, didn't it, friends. so which route are we taking:

1. that game was the one we could steal. we missed our opportunity.

OR

2. that game barely scratched the surface. if melo and billups don't **** the bed, we win it in a laugher. plus, the refs jobbed us. karma will restore balance.

i mean, can you believe the knicks played a ball-control, half-court, defensive game -- totally playing to the celts strength -- and they still had the game in hand if not for two bogus fouls?? also, how defiant of our guys to deny D'Antoni's pleas to not play defense. haha :p

#2 sounds good to me. Really, the Celtics looked like they did for the last half of the season, and the Knicks top guns, aside from Amare who had no trouble beasting on anyone they threw at him, didn't play so well.

So, despite the tough tough loss, things aren't that bad. We can definitely win Tuesday

eViL wrote:that one sure did hurt, didn't it, friends. so which route are we taking:

1. that game was the one we could steal. we missed our opportunity.

OR

2. that game barely scratched the surface. if melo and billups don't **** the bed, we win it in a laugher. plus, the refs jobbed us. karma will restore balance.

i mean, can you believe the knicks played a ball-control, half-court, defensive game -- totally playing to the celts strength -- and they still had the game in hand if not for two bogus fouls?? also, how defiant of our guys to deny D'Antoni's pleas to not play defense. haha :p

Man, I'm not throwing in the towel on this year at all, but this team can be flat out scary next season. Add a few more pieces and build up the chemistry...how many games you think Melo is going to dog it this series? My guess is not many more.