Stephen Jackson talked with the media on Thursday before starting his offseason. During the Q and A Jackson said Larry Brown was fired because he lost the team before the season.

"When I had my beginning-of-the-season meeting, he basically told me we weren't going to be good, that we weren't going to be a playoff team," Jackson told The Charlotte Observer. "You know me: I'm not going to accept that from anyone -- telling me before we even get to see what happens that we aren't going to be any good. He lost me there."

Jackson had been in the rumor mill due to his contract, two years and $19.31 million remaining, but if it's up to him he'll play out his contract with the Bobcats.

"I had a meeting with [general manager] Rod Higgins and coach [Paul Silas], and told them I want to be back. I don't want to go anywhere else," Jackson said. "A lot of people try to compare this to Golden State, where I wanted to leave because they were going young. I don't see that here. We were a couple games out of the playoff with the young guys we have. We definitely should be in the playoffs next year and I'm looking forward to being here."

Source: ESPN

Dam Larry. I guess Brown forgot his team was in the Eastern conference.

Overall I agree with Jackson though at the same time this guy quit on GSW....so pot meet kettle and no Jackson we don't know you

Nalod wrote:Some players take that leadership role and go out and burn to shove it up their coach's ass to prove them wrong.

Jax mr tough guy tuned him out.

Larry is a two year guy and thats about it. Dude is tough and an ass.

But c'mon Jax, we all know you want to stay and get to play on a non playoff team. Get to go home in Mid April is pretty sweet!

We all know Brown is over the top but the dude got fired which was the right call but that was months ago. They didn't make the playoffs and Jax is blaming the coach who got fired half way thru the season. And Gerald wallace we not doing a whole lot either.

This season is on the players not the exiled fired coach.

eh...not so sure about all that man. i think when management (in this case brown) doesn't believe you can succeed it's pretty hard to get motivated.

Nalod wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Before my junior year in highschool(5-4 135 lbs, scored 2 points a game the year before) my coach told me that I wasn't any good and would get pushed out by better players. He told me I should take the summer and focus on baseball. He said I was too small and could not compete with kids at this level. Now granted growing over the summer helped me, but instead of hating the coach and crying and draggin the team down I set out to prove him wrong. I worked my asse off all summer and came back the next year and was the leader(and dare I say star) of the team. How did this happen? Because I'm not a big baby like Stephen Jackson. I don't need my coach to tell me how great I'm going to be in order to play hard for him. Guys like Marbury and Jackson and some others are such sissies. They have no idea how much better they could be if they stopped worrying about what someoone is saying to them, and all this periphery nonsense, and just focused on being the best basketball player they can be.

I would like to thank Stephen Jackson for giving me an opportunity to speak about myself though.

Good story. Its like when a man takes 20000 posts away. It make you a better thread poster!

Sure you can have quit and gone off in a huff but you stayed with it.

SJax Brown complaint would have been real good had they made the playoffs. They had more than enough games to over come the "Grumpy one" but they didn't. I go to a few Bobcat games a year. They games against the knicks when Larry and Gerald were on were hard faught games but Gerald just was amazingly just mailing it in. He just stood there disinterested in any part of the game except when he got the ball in an isolation. I don't know if that was the plan but defesnse was awful, no attemtpt to rebound, nuthing.

The UNC mafia is strong with Jordan and Larry has major cred in his world, and I understand the firing as the team gave up on him, and its like that with larry but Jax just have just left it at that.

Thank you for acknowledging my sticktuitiveness. I did actually run off in a pouting huff but came back stronger then ever.

I agree that if Charlotte was planning on keeping all these players then it definitely was time for LB to go, just like it was time for him to go here(even thought he was right about everything). That being said, that is a weak asse reason to lose a team. The problem with the NBA is that there aren't a lot of players with short man's disease. Not a lot of guys that have been told a million times taht they stink and can't compete. Not enough guys that have had to prove themselves to the world. Most of these guys were born tall, worked hard to become talented and then had the world kiss their collective batukasses for the rest of their lives. When someone tells them they aren't the best it becomes a collective cry fest.

BlueSeats wrote:LB was probably telling him the focus would be on developing the kids and he wanted Jax to be patient take a leadership role , etc, and Jax would have none of it.

I don't know, where there's smoke there's fire and there's always plenty of smoke around LB. But more and more it seems like being a good coach revolves around "relating" to todays players, which is an eggshell walk at best. Motivate but don't discipline, teach but don't criticize, make the playoffs but with a 15 man rotation. Every player and fan knows more than the coach. The coach is always the last person to understand what the team needs.

very well said blue.

Bippity10 wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:LB was probably telling him the focus would be on developing the kids and he wanted Jax to be patient take a leadership role , etc, and Jax would have none of it.

I don't know, where there's smoke there's fire and there's always plenty of smoke around LB. But more and more it seems like being a good coach revolves around "relating" to todays players, which is an eggshell walk at best. Motivate but don't discipline, teach but don't criticize, make the playoffs but with a 15 man rotation. Every player and fan knows more than the coach. The coach is always the last person to understand what the team needs.

Agreed. Coaches have become the least knowledgeable in basketball over the the last 5-10 years.

And, unsurprisingly, it's the least secure job in basketball. Aren't close to half the league's coaches potentially getting replaced this summer alone?

Bippity10 wrote:Before my junior year in highschool(5-4 135 lbs, scored 2 points a game the year before) my coach told me that I wasn't any good and would get pushed out by better players. He told me I should take the summer and focus on baseball. He said I was too small and could not compete with kids at this level. Now granted growing over the summer helped me, but instead of hating the coach and crying and draggin the team down I set out to prove him wrong. I worked my asse off all summer and came back the next year and was the leader(and dare I say star) of the team. How did this happen? Because I'm not a big baby like Stephen Jackson. I don't need my coach to tell me how great I'm going to be in order to play hard for him. Guys like Marbury and Jackson and some others are such sissies. They have no idea how much better they could be if they stopped worrying about what someoone is saying to them, and all this periphery nonsense, and just focused on being the best basketball player they can be.

I would like to thank Stephen Jackson for giving me an opportunity to speak about myself though.

Like you need someone to give you an opportunity.

PresIke wrote:different people respond to different motivational techniques...

a good coach should know what the makeup of the team is, but sometimes even a good manager or coach gets it wrong.

some players might respond to that with a determined attitude to prove them wrong, while others might feel demoralized.

one size does not fit all.

That's thing, coaches always get it wrong. In a people business it's impossible to get it right all the time. That's why you need intelligent, confident and team oriented stars to make sure the message is sent properly during those times when the coach gets it wrong. Popovich pisses people off all the time. I'm sure he's sapped the confidence of a rookie from time to time. But he always has TD and Parker and Ginobli to make sure that the saddened party understands the message and not how it was given. Jim Calhoun is the biggest most sarcastic ahole of a coach going. He will yank a player at the drop of a hat. One mistake and you sit. He has absolutely no patience. He rarely changes his style. Why is it, that teams do not revolt against him all the time. In all his time at Uconn he's lost control of maybe 2 teams. The reason, is he always has vets who buy into what he is preaching that keep the rest of the players in line. When he has sissy vets, the team has quit. Jackson=sissy vet=team quitting.

Bippity10 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Before my junior year in highschool(5-4 135 lbs, scored 2 points a game the year before) my coach told me that I wasn't any good and would get pushed out by better players. He told me I should take the summer and focus on baseball. He said I was too small and could not compete with kids at this level. Now granted growing over the summer helped me, but instead of hating the coach and crying and draggin the team down I set out to prove him wrong. I worked my asse off all summer and came back the next year and was the leader(and dare I say star) of the team. How did this happen? Because I'm not a big baby like Stephen Jackson. I don't need my coach to tell me how great I'm going to be in order to play hard for him. Guys like Marbury and Jackson and some others are such sissies. They have no idea how much better they could be if they stopped worrying about what someoone is saying to them, and all this periphery nonsense, and just focused on being the best basketball player they can be.

I would like to thank Stephen Jackson for giving me an opportunity to speak about myself though.

Like you need someone to give you an opportunity.

This reminds me of a time when a coach gave me an opportunity. An opportunity for minutes that I had not quite earned. I was so grateful that I received thos minutes that I vowed to give the same opportunity to someone else. It was on that day I decided to become a coach. I'll tell you about my coaching career the next opportunity I get to talk about myself.

For his next trick, Mr. Bippity will tell us all how he learned the value of playing tummysticks with small, furry woodland creatures...

Bippity10 wrote:Before my junior year in highschool(5-4 135 lbs, scored 2 points a game the year before) my coach told me that I wasn't any good and would get pushed out by better players. He told me I should take the summer and focus on baseball. He said I was too small and could not compete with kids at this level. Now granted growing over the summer helped me, but instead of hating the coach and crying and draggin the team down I set out to prove him wrong. I worked my asse off all summer and came back the next year and was the leader(and dare I say star) of the team. How did this happen? Because I'm not a big baby like Stephen Jackson. I don't need my coach to tell me how great I'm going to be in order to play hard for him. Guys like Marbury and Jackson and some others are such sissies. They have no idea how much better they could be if they stopped worrying about what someoone is saying to them, and all this periphery nonsense, and just focused on being the best basketball player they can be.

I would like to thank Stephen Jackson for giving me an opportunity to speak about myself though.

In other words, you're a Larry Lover.