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Just 1/2 a day til the Games start. First game we beat the Celtics; then onto the Game of Thrones. For those whoo haven't read the books - just hold on tight. Book 3 is considered the best book of the series. It's going to be a wild ride.
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First episode was awesome. Would've been nice to see Mance Rayder strumming a lute as he was going to meet Jon. But that would've been more fan service and was not essential.
The Dinkman was awesome again, but I'm kinda curious what fan reaction will be toward him this season. His character starts to take a turn for the whiney this season.
Marge Tyrell is smoking. I barely noticed Lean Heady in that dinner scene. I don't know who plays Marge Tyrell, but she's found herself a new stalk..er, I mean fan
The scene with the giant was awesome and Selmy's appearance was bad ass. I'm glad that ditched they went straight to the point B with Selmy's appearance and ditched the stuff from the books.
How the hell did Ghost get back from being with Jon to helping Tarly out? Do men really need nipples? Maybe you guys have answers to these questions.
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BigDaddyG wrote:First episode was awesome. Would've been nice to see Mance Rayder strumming a lute as he was going to meet Jon. But that would've been more fan service and was not essential.
The Dinkman was awesome again, but I'm kinda curious what fan reaction will be toward him this season. His character starts to take a turn for the whiney this season.
Marge Tyrell is smoking. I barely noticed Lean Heady in that dinner scene. I don't know who plays Marge Tyrell, but she's found herself a new stalk..er, I mean fan
The scene with the giant was awesome and Selmy's appearance was bad ass. I'm glad that ditched they went straight to the point B with Selmy's appearance and ditched the stuff from the books.
How the hell did Ghost get back from being with Jon to helping Tarly out? Do men really need nipples? Maybe you guys have answers to these questions.

Agree. Loved the first episode. Good opening to the season to catch everyone up on each of the storylines.

Peter Dinklage(Tyrion) and Charles Dance (Tywin Lanister) had a great scene where Tyrion asks for Lordship of Casterly Rock (The Lanister seat) and Tywin delivers a great response. Charles Dance always wonderfully plays the suave villian, and he has done a fabulous job in all 3 seasons. He hasn't received much credit from people but he is intimidating.

The unsullied scene was also well done. They had 400 actors there - probably a lot of locals-trained and orchestrated to make the moves they did. Added more realism than the 1st season where they would have only a small band of men who were supposed to represent an entire Kaleesar. Also means their budget has been greatly increased. It's becoming more like a movie.

The nipple scene - I knew it was coming and it was too painful to watch. Uh-h!. So I wimped out and turned away.

Emilia Clark (Daenerys) has also grown tremendously as an actress from the first season to this one. She is much more convincing as a leader and the Mother of Dragons.

Ghost: They have changed some things from the books. In the HBO series Ghost wasn't with Jon when Jon was captured by the wildlings. While he was in the books. The lack of a battle scene (even a small one) with the host of white walkers and ghosts vs the Night's Watch was a bit disappointing. The transition from the closing season 2 scene didn't work IMO, but I'm sure the budgetary constraints were the reasons.

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4/5/2013  12:22 AM
Markji wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:First episode was awesome. Would've been nice to see Mance Rayder strumming a lute as he was going to meet Jon. But that would've been more fan service and was not essential.
The Dinkman was awesome again, but I'm kinda curious what fan reaction will be toward him this season. His character starts to take a turn for the whiney this season.
Marge Tyrell is smoking. I barely noticed Lean Heady in that dinner scene. I don't know who plays Marge Tyrell, but she's found herself a new stalk..er, I mean fan
The scene with the giant was awesome and Selmy's appearance was bad ass. I'm glad that ditched they went straight to the point B with Selmy's appearance and ditched the stuff from the books.
How the hell did Ghost get back from being with Jon to helping Tarly out? Do men really need nipples? Maybe you guys have answers to these questions.

Agree. Loved the first episode. Good opening to the season to catch everyone up on each of the storylines.

Peter Dinklage(Tyrion) and Charles Dance (Tywin Lanister) had a great scene where Tyrion asks for Lordship of Casterly Rock (The Lanister seat) and Tywin delivers a great response. Charles Dance always wonderfully plays the suave villian, and he has done a fabulous job in all 3 seasons. He hasn't received much credit from people but he is intimidating.

The unsullied scene was also well done. They had 400 actors there - probably a lot of locals-trained and orchestrated to make the moves they did. Added more realism than the 1st season where they would have only a small band of men who were supposed to represent an entire Kaleesar. Also means their budget has been greatly increased. It's becoming more like a movie.

The nipple scene - I knew it was coming and it was too painful to watch. Uh-h!. So I wimped out and turned away.

Emilia Clark (Daenerys) has also grown tremendously as an actress from the first season to this one. She is much more convincing as a leader and the Mother of Dragons.

Ghost: They have changed some things from the books. In the HBO series Ghost wasn't with Jon when Jon was captured by the wildlings. While he was in the books. The lack of a battle scene (even a small one) with the host of white walkers and ghosts vs the Night's Watch was a bit disappointing. The transition from the closing season 2 scene didn't work IMO, but I'm sure the budgetary constraints were the reasons.


It also looks like they're going to play out the Mormont, Selmy and Daenerys story line about longer that GRRM did in the book. I hope the producers allow Samwell to regain his pride after the whole crow fail. I also think it's about time for Thoros of Mys to make an appearance.
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4/7/2013  10:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2013  10:45 PM
Episode 2 was awesome. Funny seeing Maergery Tyrell play Joff like a hot bartender working for tips. Thoros of Myr looked like even more of a badass than I imagined. But I think it's kinda tough to see the Brotherhood without Banner storyline continue if Beric Dondarion is left out. As bad as the Theon torture scene was, I got the sense that they were much worse in the book.
Also, HBO didn't an awesome job casting German porn actress to play Schae. Two thumbs up on that one
Jack Gleeson continue to kill as King Jof: "He was a known....degenerate." That line killed me.
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4/9/2013  11:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/9/2013  11:28 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Episode 2 was awesome. Funny seeing Maergery Tyrell play Joff like a hot bartender working for tips. Thoros of Myr looked like even more of a badass than I imagined. But I think it's kinda tough to see the Brotherhood without Banner storyline continue if Beric Dondarion is left out. As bad as the Theon torture scene was, I got the sense that they were much worse in the book.
Also, HBO didn't an awesome job casting German porn actress to play Schae. Two thumbs up on that one
Jack Gleeson continue to kill as King Jof: "He was a known....degenerate." That line killed me.

Looks like Breic Dondarrion appears in the next episode.

Richard Dormer (Beric Dondarrion)

The photo on the right was taken in 2006, so it's understandable that Richard Dormer (of no relation to Natalie Dormer) looks much younger than his character Beric Dondarrion, leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners. The Brotherhood is a band of citizen soldiers fighting a guerrilla war against the raiders of the Riverlands, which has clearly taken a quite a toll on the bearded, eye-patch-sporting Beric.

http://tv.yahoo.com/photos/game-of-thrones-what-does-cast-really-look-like-slideshow/richard-dormer-photo--1217013415.html

I agree with your other comments. I think the casting and acting/directing has been superb in the entire series. I am also appreciating the actress playing Sansa more. She is doing a great job being very prissy - which is why we all can't stand her and I just roll my eyes when she goes into that mode. But that is what she is supposed to be portraying. She has a great scene with the newly introduced Lady Olenna Tyrell (Diana Rigg), who also captures the scene.


Diana Rigg (Lady Olenna Tyrell)

Diana Rigg is famously known for her roles as Emma Peel on TV's "Avengers" and Tracy, the only gal who could ever get 007 to put a ring on it, in the 1969 Bond flick "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Forty-plus years later, the legendary actress has her head all wrapped up (literally) in the war for the Iron Throne as Lady Olenna. Unlike Rigg, Lady Olenna apparently never smiles or gives her hair some air.

Other new characters - Jojen and Meera Reed. I thought Jojen did an excellent job in succinctly explaining the mystical powers that Bran and he has. Can't wait for this to be developed further in later episodes.
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Margaery seducing Joff with the crossbow was hot. Margaery is super hot- much hotter than I thought she'd be from the books.

I thought the Thoros scenes were different. Looks like they combined Thoros and Tom of the Sevenstrings? Thoros didnt have a ton of personality but Tom of the Sevens (the Bard) certainly did. Beric doesn't come in till later and apparently they have cast him.

Jojen/Meera. Jojen- I was anticipating some tiny green eyed scary kid. Still was good to get this storyline underway as its pretty crucial.

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4/11/2013  12:39 AM
VDesai wrote:Margaery seducing Joff with the crossbow was hot. Margaery is super hot- much hotter than I thought she'd be from the books.

I thought the Thoros scenes were different. Looks like they combined Thoros and Tom of the Sevenstrings? Thoros didnt have a ton of personality but Tom of the Sevens (the Bard) certainly did. Beric doesn't come in till later and apparently they have cast him.

Jojen/Meera. Jojen- I was anticipating some tiny green eyed scary kid. Still was good to get this storyline underway as its pretty crucial.

You're right about Thoros. Pre- Ned beheading Thoros was Robert Baratheon's partner in crime in terms of partying. But he became more introspective and devout in the books after he joined the Brotherhood. It kind of explains some of the **** he's able to do later. Maybe they show more of his transformation on screen. I'm happy they brought in the Reeds. I think Jojen seems more knowledgable and sure of himself this episode than he does in the books. It would've been cool if he said his trademark line about dying lol
Not feeling Mance so far. I think I was expecting someone a bit more charismatic. Also, I'm all for the girl power and ****, but people should realize that Jaime was tired, chained and without armor when he fought Brienne.

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4/11/2013  12:40 AM
Also, is that the same guy who played Beric in season 1?
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4/11/2013  6:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2013  6:24 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Also, is that the same guy who played Beric in season 1?

IIRC, I read somewhere that this actor is different from season 1 Beric. One of the problems the producers have is continuity with actors who have small roles. They get tied up with other jobs inbetween and so may not be available 2 years later.

I agree, I also liked how Jojen Reed was portrayed in this episode rather than the schzophrenic character in the books.

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4/16/2013  5:55 PM
Ouch. My hand. Uh-h!
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4/17/2013  3:32 PM
Markji wrote:Ouch. My hand. Uh-h!

Yeah. I kept thinking Empire Strikes Back because Locke kept mocking Jaime and saying 'my father, my father.' It looks like poor Edmure isn't going to get fair shake in the television show. One of the few likable characters in the book in my opinion. I imagined someone more badass as the Blackfish.
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I thought it was a good episode.

In terms of Edmure, when you look at his resume its a bunch of follies, and I think his portrayal is as a bit of a hot head out to prove himself. I think the characterization seems fair so far- he's crossing the line of buffoon, but sometimes thats what you have to do to make the point. Blackfish is a great character- he looks a little old here, but he should do the job.

I really hope Jamie starts to develop the way that he does in the books. Ended up being one of the most interesting characters to me.

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4/22/2013  8:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/22/2013  8:22 AM
Yes, Jaime starts showing that he actually has a heart and isn't only about himself. He tries to save Brienne by first giving her advice not to fight back or they will kill her. Then he tells the captors that her father is rich and would pay a lot to get his daughter back in one piece.

Spoiler coming
In episode 3 when Barriston Selmy tells Dany that her brother Rhaegar was the last dragon, Dany gives a short quip under her breath, "Not the last". (Targaryens were referred to as Dragons, just like Lannisters are called Lions, and Starks , wolves, etc). In Episode 4 - Daenerys really shows her stuff. I won't write any more until everyone has seen the episode. Enjoy it.

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4/24/2013  11:35 AM
Previous episode was one of the best in the series IMO.

That said, the Theon storyline kind of going around in circles must be confusing as hell to viewers who arent familiar with the books.

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4/24/2013  6:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2013  6:56 PM
VDesai wrote:Previous episode was one of the best in the series IMO.

That said, the Theon storyline kind of going around in circles must be confusing as hell to viewers who arent familiar with the books.


Yeah. I understand why the writers feel the need to do this. Theon's "confession" near the end encapsulated a lot of his motives for the betrayal. I have a few complaints. I don't think the writers are doing a good enough job of showing how horrendous Robb Stark's decision making has been. I also thought the part about Varys and his pet wizard was odd and out of place. I'm also getting a lil annoyed with the Pod "the Rod" jokes. It was funny the first time. It's OK to let it go now. They also changed up Sansa's suitor from the books. Unfortunately, Sansa is one of the few people to know about Ser Loras's, um, proclivities. Also, I'm not sure if Bran and Jojen are sharing green dreams or some green leaf laced with ish. The lil dudes are trippin' like crazy.
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4/27/2013  7:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/27/2013  7:55 AM
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VDesai wrote:Previous episode was one of the best in the series IMO.

That said, the Theon storyline kind of going around in circles must be confusing as hell to viewers who arent familiar with the books.


Yeah. I understand why the writers feel the need to do this. Theon's "confession" near the end encapsulated a lot of his motives for the betrayal. I have a few complaints. I don't think the writers are doing a good enough job of showing how horrendous Robb Stark's decision making has been. I also thought the part about Varys and his pet wizard was odd and out of place. I'm also getting a lil annoyed with the Pod "the Rod" jokes. It was funny the first time. It's OK to let it go now. They also changed up Sansa's suitor from the books. Unfortunately, Sansa is one of the few people to know about Ser Loras's, um, proclivities. Also, I'm not sure if Bran and Jojen are sharing green dreams or some green leaf laced with ish. The lil dudes are trippin' like crazy.

Varys' pet wizard - not in the book. Lot's of little things in the HBO series aren't in the books but the main storylines are there and not affected. The actor playing Varys is doing a very good job.

What I've been doing is watching the show and enjoying it as a separate means of entertainment from the books.The acting, directing, story and cliffhangers are great. When Jaime had his hand cut off, some of my friends who haven't read the books went bonkers. It was so unexpected, and so well done.

And I/they loved Dany's final "negotiation" for the 8,000 Unsullied.

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People freaked out over Dany in the last epsiode. I knew what was coming, but those new to the story went bonkers. I thought the last episode was very good.

It makes sense to leave it to just one Tyrell brother. If we're introducing Willas and Garlan and all these people its gonna get confusing real fast. It also looks like they cut the entire Ser Dontas Hollard part.

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4/29/2013  12:55 AM
VDesai wrote:People freaked out over Dany in the last epsiode. I knew what was coming, but those new to the story went bonkers. I thought the last episode was very good.

It makes sense to leave it to just one Tyrell brother. If we're introducing Willas and Garlan and all these people its gonna get confusing real fast. It also looks like they cut the entire Ser Dontas Hollard part.

Dontas is unnecessary. Loras is completely different as far as his feeling after Renly's death and his admission into the Kings Guard. Garlan is depicted as kind of a badass. I was hoping to see him make an appearance. But ish is definitely going to go down the next few episodes.

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4/29/2013  10:21 AM
There are already too many characters for most non-book reading people to follow clearly. I saw the new episode last night with my cousins and had to explain who was whom a few times. They actually appreciated it and got more out of watching.

At the end of each book they have a list of each house and who the major players are. I referred to that a lot when I first read the books. Perhaps they can do the same thing on HBO - show a picture of each character and who they are; what they are doing in the story-line. I think it would be helpful.

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