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fishmike
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4/13/2011  5:05 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=5-on-5-110413

5-on-5: Who will shine in the playoffs?

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By adding another title to his résumé this postseason, Kobe can enter "greatest of all time" territory.

There's more than a championship on the line in the 2011 postseason. Some players' legacies will be affected forever, while others hope to make names for themselves.

Which players and teams will produce the biggest storylines of the playoffs? Our five writers debate five burning questions:

1. What's the most surprising thing that will happen in the East playoffs?

Kyle Weidie, Truth About It: Miami will handle Boston with relative ease in the second round -- we're talking sweep or a 4-1 series win. Sure, the Celtics were 3-1 versus the SuperFriends during the regular season, but two of those wins came within Miami's first nine games and the third came with Kendrick Perkins still a Celtic. Perhaps more surprising is that Boston won't be as affected by wear-and-tear old tires, but rather by the inability to produce points.


J.M. Poulard, Warriors World: If the top East seeds advance, Chicago and Orlando will duke it out in a battle of the MVP winner versus the MVP runner-up. Although the playoffs have no bearing on the Maurice Podoloff trophy, the player who may finish second will have a chance to prove that he was more deserving of the award.


Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine: The Knicks will stretch the Celtics to six, possibly seven games. Nobody's giving the Knicks a snowball's chance, but the sports world tends to get all weird when Boston and New York are involved. Two of the three games they've played have been decided by four points or fewer, and I'm counting on Melo and Amare's pride to at least protect home court.

James Ham, Cowbell Kingdom: I'm not so sure there will be any surprises in the East. Chicago and Miami should make it to the conference finals with relative ease. Orlando isn't deep enough in the post and the Celtics woke up and realized they were old. I guess the question is whether the Celtics or Knicks make it to Round 2.


Dan Feldman, PistonPowered: Derrick Rose will struggle after the first round. Considering he'll have to face strong defensive teams like Orlando, Miami or Boston, that might not seem so surprising right now. But after Rose annihilates the Pacers in the first round, expectations for the already-anointed MVP will grow even higher --much higher than he'll reach.


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2. What's the most surprising thing that will happen in the West playoffs?


Kyle Weidie, Truth About It: It won't be surprising when each of the top four seeds in the West move into the second round with relative ease. Nor will it be surprising when the conference semifinals and finals all get pushed to seven games. What will be surprising is when the Dallas Mavericks come out on top in the West and Mark Cuban holds a party for all his friends in the media.


J.M. Poulard, Warriors World: Kobe Bryant's ability and willingness to carry the load might end up being fool's gold for once. During the playoffs, Kobe usually fits within the team structure and becomes aggressive when his teammates are out of sync. March and April are usually indicative of his playoff performances, and since March 1, Kobe is shooting just 42.3 percent from the field.


Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine: The Denver Nuggets will upset the darlings of the Western Conference, the Oklahoma City Thunder, in seven games. Since the Melo trade, the Nuggets have had one of the top records in the league thanks to a versatile offense that shares the wealth and one of the league's deepest benches. They're an extremely well-coached defense with the league's most underrated defender (Wilson Chandler), who'll give Kevin Durant fits.


James Ham, Cowbell Kingdom: The Spurs will look every bit as good as their record. Paper champs? No way, that is one finely oiled, playoff-tested machine. I like coach Scotty Brooks and his Thunder team, but they would need to get through George Karl, Gregg Popovich and probably Phil Jackson to make it to the promised land. Good luck with that.


Dan Feldman, PistonPowered: At least two lower seeds will win three first-round games, and at least one of them will win its series. That would be a pretty fine showing for the underdogs, considering a full five games separate the No. 4 and No. 5 seeds. The Nuggets, Trail Blazers and Grizzlies are peaking at the right time and are very dangerous.


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3. Who will be the breakout star of the 2011 postseason?


Kyle Weidie, Truth About It: A FIBA championship in Turkey last summer has only fueled Russell Westbrook's fire this season. An All-Star for the first time this season, Westbrook is clearly making a name for himself, but this year's playoffs will propel him to nationwide recognition. Last season, he upped his effective field goal percentage from .452 in the regular season to .500 in his first playoff appearance. This time, opponents won't know who to prepare for more, Westbrook or Kevin Durant.


J.M. Poulard, Warriors World: Big men who score on the block and from midrange are precious commodities. If they rebound and defend, too, we're usually talking about a star player. LaMarcus Aldridge gets some recognition, but clearly not enough to be selected to the All-Star team. This year's postseason will probably change things going forward.


Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine: Denver's Danilo Gallinari fears no man. At 6-foot-10, with exceptional athletic ability and the swagger to match, Gallo is an absolute matchup nightmare for just about anyone. He can stretch defenses, put it on the deck and finish strong in transition. When he gets on a roll, I don' t see many teams who have an answer for him.


James Ham, Cowbell Kingdom: Russell Westbrook. While Durant will make it all look so easy, Westbrook will eat Lawson and Felton for lunch. I know, I just bet against the Thunder, but look for Westbrook to make his name in a hard-fought series against Tony Parker. They'll lose, but they'll do it with style.


Dan Feldman, PistonPowered: Russell Westbrook. Kevin Durant has always overshadowed him, mostly deservedly, because Durant is one of the game's top young stars. With several potential matchups against teams, most notably the Lakers, ill-equipped to defend a big and fast point guard, Westbrook should show the world he's better than a typical sidekick.


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4. Which star will have his legacy harmed most by the 2011 postseason?


Kyle Weidie, Truth About It: Not that he has much of a playoff legacy in the first place, but Carmelo Anthony certainly won't be making any lasting moments in this year's postseason. Easily frustrated Knicks fans will just have to deal with their fate: Boston's defense will lead to selfish offense from Anthony, and their team will bounced in the first round.


J.M. Poulard, Warriors World: Although Carmelo Anthony's Denver Nuggets made it to the 2009 Western Conference finals, his six other postseason appearances have resulted in first-round eliminations. He could be headed that way once again; except this time he will have to answer to the New York media. Oh, and imagine if the Nuggets win a playoff series.

Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine: LeBron James is in a tight spot. The only way he can come out of this postseason with his rep intact is to win a title. His customary near triple-doubles won't mean much if Miami suffers a 4-2 exit from the Eastern Conference finals. Just won't cut it. From this point forward, LeBron will be judged by whether he wins the big one or not.


James Ham, Cowbell Kingdom: Joe Johnson. Does he have a legacy? I'm not sure, but he just got paid and I don't see any way the Hawks are around to see Round 2. Atlanta still has a lot of talent (more than 44-win talent) and the leader of a disappointing team always takes the hit.


Dan Feldman, PistonPowered: Carmelo Anthony. Paul Pierce and the Celtics should make Anthony work for his shots and lower Melo's efficiency in the process. The Knicks have been overrated since trading for Melo. Anthony probably won't play any worse than should reasonably be expected, but since when are expectations reasonable?
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5. Which star will have his legacy enhanced most by the 2011 postseason?


Kyle Weidie, Truth About It: The health of Andrew Bynum won't affect Dirk Nowitzki's hunger, but Nowitzki's stomach did just growl. One could argue that Dirk's legacy has the deepest hole from which to climb. Since blowing a 2-0 series lead on Miami in the 2006 Finals, the Mavericks have been bounced in the first round of the playoffs in three of the past four seasons. A championship isn't wholly necessary to repair Dirk's playoff legacy, but if Dallas fails to make the Finals, he may have to live with the label of a regular-season MVP who can't come through in the postseason.


J.M. Poulard, Warriors World: In case you thought Derrick Rose's already-impressive season couldn't get any better, wait until Chicago faces Indiana. Although the votes will have already been collected, Rose's first-round performance against a subpar opponent will make those who doubted his MVP credentials look silly. He will use that momentum to shine for the remainder of the postseason.


Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine: Kobe Bryant has quite a bit at stake. If he wins a third consecutive title (giving him a whopping six) the discussion of the greatest player ever begins with him. He'll have matched Michael Jordan's ring collection and solidified himself in the top three all-time, at the very least. He's staring history in the face. No pressure.


James Ham, Cowbell Kingdom: Manu Ginobili will be a dominant force in this year's playoffs. He may not be a conventional star, but he is a star nonetheless, and who is going to stop him? After Kobe and D-Wade, there is not a better shooting guard in the NBA.


Dan Feldman, PistonPowered: Kobe Bryant. I'm taking a safe pick here. Even if the Lakers lose, I can't see Kobe's legacy suffering significantly. But if the Lakers win the championship, Kobe would equal Michael Jordan's six titles. Jordan is the pinnacle of NBA greatness, and in at least one more area, Kobe would become his peer.

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fishmike
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4/13/2011  5:15 PM
Wilson Chandler is the league's most underrated defender? He was really good at rotating, but his m2m was ok at best. His help was solid, but Will wasnt locking ANYONE down.

Sadly I agree w/ the Gallo stuff. You saw how he played head to head against Melo, Lebron... other big stars. I would have been nice to see how Gallo played in the post season for us, but wasnt meant to be.

As for Melo's legacy.. what is that? I mean he's made a lot of money in the league, some all star games, etc.. but he's a 2nd tier star. Even when he was being overhyped did people think we just traded for Lebron or Kobe?

That being said I have to admit this taking shots at Melo has me pissy. Man I hope he proves these dbags wrong. Plus I loathe the Celtics

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4/13/2011  5:36 PM
There isn't a single person on this site that thought that the Knicks traded for LeBron or Kobe. You're right, he is a tier below those guys and if he can pair with Amare and perhaps a 3rd 2nd tier star to make the Knicks legitimate championship contenders, what's wrong with that? It wasn't happening with the players the Knicks gave up no matter how much people want to spin the revisionist history.

My advice to you and others still complaining about the trade is to sit back and enjoy the ride...until Dolan and Isiah blow it up.

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4/13/2011  6:03 PM
We can beat the Celtics! All of their stars are a year older. We have the 2 best players right now and a team playing well together. Melo is better than Pierce and a healthy Amar'e is better than a 35 year old (in May) Garnett. While their centers are bigger than ours, none of them can run the floor. Shaq - 39 yrs old and hurt; Jermaine O - 32 years old and has been hurt; Big Baby - 295 lbs - tough in a half court game.

Melo is very up for this series. While people blindly knock him for his defense, he has actually played some very good defense and is an excellent rebounder - I think the best rebounder from the #3 spot. Without Melo we wouldn't have a chance. With Melo, we do.

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4/13/2011  6:13 PM
Melo has just as many rings as Lebron which is zero and he is second tier smh. Lebron ran to Wades team to get himself a ring and thats all I gotta say about that.
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4/13/2011  6:20 PM
Carmelo Anthony won't be the reason the Knicks lose this series. That doesn't mean he won't take the majority of the blame though.
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4/13/2011  6:23 PM
islesfan wrote:There isn't a single person on this site that thought that the Knicks traded for LeBron or Kobe. You're right, he is a tier below those guys and if he can pair with Amare and perhaps a 3rd 2nd tier star to make the Knicks legitimate championship contenders, what's wrong with that? It wasn't happening with the players the Knicks gave up no matter how much people want to spin the revisionist history.

My advice to you and others still complaining about the trade is to sit back and enjoy the ride...until Dolan and Isiah blow it up.

It was Dolan that made it happen....

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4/13/2011  6:50 PM
Orlando isn't deep enough in the post

What does that make the Knicks?
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4/13/2011  6:57 PM
it's funny that no one was wriring such glowing things about gallo while he was here but now that he's in denver he's getting praise from the media
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4/13/2011  7:01 PM
My expectations for this season have been met, we are at .500 for the season and with this type of trade that's about as much as I could reasonably hope for. In the playoffs I do think we have a shot gainst the Celtics (about 1 in 3). As a fan I hope we sweep the crap out of the retarded mofos, but that's just the fan part of me. I think this Melo love (among knick fans) will end abruptly with the playoff exit and those that hated the trade will be telling us how right they were throughout the offseason. And those that favored it will argue w/o the trade we may not even have made he playoffs. None of this makes a lot of sense, but it's what we do.
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4/13/2011  7:08 PM
islesfan wrote:There isn't a single person on this site that thought that the Knicks traded for LeBron or Kobe. You're right, he is a tier below those guys and if he can pair with Amare and perhaps a 3rd 2nd tier star to make the Knicks legitimate championship contenders, what's wrong with that? It wasn't happening with the players the Knicks gave up no matter how much people want to spin the revisionist history.

My advice to you and others still complaining about the trade is to sit back and enjoy the ride...until Dolan and Isiah blow it up.

no need for the advice as nobody is still complaining about the trade
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islesfan wrote:Carmelo Anthony won't be the reason the Knicks lose this series. That doesn't mean he won't take the majority of the blame though.

bingo. agreed.

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4/13/2011  8:11 PM
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:There isn't a single person on this site that thought that the Knicks traded for LeBron or Kobe. You're right, he is a tier below those guys and if he can pair with Amare and perhaps a 3rd 2nd tier star to make the Knicks legitimate championship contenders, what's wrong with that? It wasn't happening with the players the Knicks gave up no matter how much people want to spin the revisionist history.

My advice to you and others still complaining about the trade is to sit back and enjoy the ride...until Dolan and Isiah blow it up.

no need for the advice as nobody is still complaining about the trade

The trade got done and might prove itself out to have been a solid decision. We gutted the roster, but it may turn out to have been inevitable (e.g., CP3 trade) anyway to free salary cap.

The Knicks as presently constructed are neither a finished roster or a championship contender. We are in the playoffs for the first meaningful time in a decade. We're back, we're building, we have two of the top players in the game inked for five years, we have a market hungry for post-season battles, and we have Fishlips back, which means we can expect to see more of that Knicks Chic hottie. Shyte be looking up as far as I can tell.

Playoff hoops in NYC. What could be better? And our future trajectory should improve as we add role players.

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4/13/2011  8:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:
islesfan wrote:Carmelo Anthony won't be the reason the Knicks lose this series. That doesn't mean he won't take the majority of the blame though.

bingo. agreed.

+1 (I can't believe I'm saying this)

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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4/13/2011  8:28 PM

Moonangie wrote:
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:There isn't a single person on this site that thought that the Knicks traded for LeBron or Kobe. You're right, he is a tier below those guys and if he can pair with Amare and perhaps a 3rd 2nd tier star to make the Knicks legitimate championship contenders, what's wrong with that? It wasn't happening with the players the Knicks gave up no matter how much people want to spin the revisionist history.

My advice to you and others still complaining about the trade is to sit back and enjoy the ride...until Dolan and Isiah blow it up.

no need for the advice as nobody is still complaining about the trade

The trade got done and might prove itself out to have been a solid decision. We gutted the roster, but it may turn out to have been inevitable (e.g., CP3 trade) anyway to free salary cap.

The Knicks as presently constructed are neither a finished roster or a championship contender. We are in the playoffs for the first meaningful time in a decade. We're back, we're building, we have two of the top players in the game inked for five years, we have a market hungry for post-season battles, and we have Fishlips back, which means we can expect to see more of that Knicks Chic hottie. Shyte be looking up as far as I can tell.

Playoff hoops in NYC. What could be better? And our future trajectory should improve as we add role players.



Who many would trade Fields for Moz for this series alone ;)

Mean to watch the Knuggets in the playoffs too... oh yeah. It's all just a bizness....get ready for da bidness soon fella's I loathe Garnett more than any player in the NBA

Shaq fits right in.

I don't like players doing victory laps much either.

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4/13/2011  8:45 PM
The old Knicks would have lost to the Celtics in the playoffs as well.
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4/13/2011  8:56 PM
nyk4ever wrote:it's funny that no one was wriring such glowing things about gallo while he was here but now that he's in denver he's getting praise from the media

ROFL It's like we should be trading for Gallo

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Silverfuel wrote:The old Knicks would have lost to the Celtics in the playoffs as well.

No they wouldn't. They would be playing the Miami Heat or maybe even the Chicago Bulls.

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4/13/2011  10:15 PM
islesfan wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:The old Knicks would have lost to the Celtics in the playoffs as well.

No they wouldn't. They would be playing the Miami Heat or maybe even the Chicago Bulls.

Why? They were on track to finish with the 6th seed.

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4/13/2011  10:20 PM
HAHa... gallo was a jumpshooting stiff when he was here, according to most... now he fears no man.. wow , just.. wow...
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yikes.. Ive been critical of Melo's shortcomings but this is just hate from ESPN

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