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JesseDark
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3/31/2011  9:09 AM
Carmelo reminded me of Bernard last night. I had that thought a few times while watching the game.

If we had something credible in the middle (sigh) we would be alright.

Bring back dee-fense
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3/31/2011  9:18 AM
JesseDark wrote:Carmelo reminded me of Bernard last night. I had that thought a few times while watching the game.

If we had something credible in the middle (sigh) we would be alright.

yes! i've been raising bernard's name every time i talk to someone about carmelo. most of them look at me like or flat out say that i'm insane. but you know as well as i do that people are a##holes. so f'em.

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3/31/2011  9:24 AM
He did remind me of Bernard a lot last night. This really needs a defensive and rebounding tall center. Tyson Chandler will fix a lot of our problems.
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3/31/2011  9:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2011  9:32 AM
Bernard King says that No. 30 would have been the perfect number for Carmelo Anthony, who says he grew up idolizing the former Knicks scoring machine.

"I wanted No. 30 because that's what I wanted to average: 30," King said Friday night at the Garden, where the Knicks faced Milwaukee. "That's what I wanted to aspire to."

King has attended the Knicks' last two games and is hoping to spend some quality time with Anthony, whose offensive game is similar to that of King.

"He made a move the other night where he held the ball over his head and caught the defender flat-footed," King said. "I thought, 'Wow, that's my move.'"

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/03/26/2011-03-26_former_knick_bernard_king_sees_some_of_his_own_moves_in_carmelo_anthonys_offensi.html#ixzz1IBRtNd6D

Physically Bernard King was hundreds of miles away, but his heart was at the Garden on Wednesday night, delighted about the Knicks' acquisition of Carmelo Anthony to team with Amar'e Stoudemire.

"He and Amar'e are the type of players New York fans wanted,'' King, 54, told The Post from his home in Atlanta.

"I always said New York deserved to have a superstar. Now they have two of them. That's what's been lacking on the Knicks. Every other team in New York, whether it's football or baseball, has multiple superstars. Now the Knicks have them. I'm looking forward to watching them team together.''

Anthony has made it known that, since he was a kid, King was basketball idol. The two connected several years ago to shoot a sneaker commercial. King has tracked Anthony's career since then.

"I was honored to learn he thought that much of me,'' King said.

"When you talk about a talent like Carmelo Anthony and his skill set, it's a tremendous honor to have a player say he used to watch tapes of you and imitate my moves.''

In three full seasons with the Knicks from 1982-85, King averaged 26.6 points and led the NBA in scoring in 1984-85 at 32.9. In 14 seasons with the Nets, Knicks and three other teams between 1977 and 1993, King averaged 22.5 points.

Anthony was averaging 25.2 points with Denver before scoring 27 in his Knicks debut Wednesday.

"He has far greater range than I did,'' King said. "I probably made five 3-pointers in my whole career [he actually made 23 in his 12 seasons after the 3-pointer was instituted].

"But I can see similarities in how he attacks the basket and makes certain moves in the interior of the defense. But any time you're building your game, you're going to add your own unique style and flavor. There's a lot of individuality in how you play basketball.''

King said the Knicks made the right move acquiring Anthony, even though it cost them four starters and two draft picks.

"You don't have guys come along like that often,'' he said. "You're talking about a guy that can dominate a ballgame, and that's what you need.''

Chauncey Billups, King said, will be one who "stirs the drink,'' and will quicken Anthony's assimilation with the Knicks.

"It was big to bring him in with Carmelo, because Chauncey already understands his game,'' King said. "He knows where he wants the ball and when. He's a veteran guard who has won championships. Bringing in a guy like that is going to benefit both Carmelo and Amar'e.''

King is currently writing his memoirs and has a business in Atlanta where he lives with his wife and family. But he follows the NBA and the Knicks.

"I'm always going to follow the game.'' he said. "When you lose that, you lose your passion.''

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/idol_bernard_lauds_addition_of_anthony_8s3xAgUfF2v5X7GqvQuTMO#ixzz1IBSNijtR

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3/31/2011  9:34 AM
I was too young to watch Bernard, but wasn't he just a scorer that led a mediocre Knicks team?
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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3/31/2011  9:36 AM
NYKBocker wrote:He did remind me of Bernard a lot last night. This really needs a defensive and rebounding tall center. Tyson Chandler will fix a lot of our problems.

You mean the guy that Zeke should have pried from Chicago as he built his train wreck? If Curry were even just half as good Thomas believed, he could be that perfect guy in the middle to play with Amare and Melo, but he's not and thank goodness he's gone. Maybe we can score a pair of Chandlers this off-season, Tyson and Wilson anyone?

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3/31/2011  9:38 AM
orangeblobman wrote:I was too young to watch Bernard, but wasn't he just a scorer that led a mediocre Knicks team?

He didn't just lead a mediocre Knicks team he carried them. If there ever was a player who was surrounded by mediocre to garbage players he was it.

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3/31/2011  9:50 AM
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I was too young to watch Bernard, but wasn't he just a scorer that led a mediocre Knicks team?

He didn't just lead a mediocre Knicks team he carried them. If there ever was a player who was surrounded by mediocre to garbage players he was it.

spot on. The thought was always baf timing... if King and Ewing had each other there would be a couple title banners in the garden.

Melo's love for King is a very likable trait for Melo.

Melo was lights out last night. He needs to show he can do that playoff time

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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3/31/2011  11:41 AM
I am getting stoked for the playoffs. Melo is starting to percolate.
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3/31/2011  12:07 PM
I'm curious -- how do you find him reminiscent?

I see the same ability to score almost at will. Similar attitude -- almost ****iness -- once he gets it going. And the same lethal mid-range jumper. I guess, also, similar post-up ability from the SF position.

That said, the way they score/scored is/was so different. Bernard was much more about quickness and speed. And that ridiculously quick release. He was so smooth, you didn't know the shot was coming until it was in. And he had the most beautiful swish I've ever seen. Loved to watch the nets dance when he played.

Melo is much more about deception, strength, herky jerky moves. He's super quick too, but not in the same way -- not at all smooth. Also, not nearly the threat on the break, but a much greater threat on the offensive boards.

Neither were/are consistently strong on defense, but both showed/show flashes.

And to pile on, Orange, criticizing Bernard for his mediocre teams is just unfair. Basically by himself, he consistently took the Knicks to the 2nd round and once took the great Bird/McHale/Parish Celtics team to seven (can't remember which year). The next best player on those Knicks teams was Cartright -- not even close to an all star. Backcourt was Rory Sparrow (the dudu of the 1980s), Trent Tucker (hardnosed, but mediocre) and Darryl Walker (Jared Jefferies in pg form -- never met a layup he couldn't miss).

Anyway, I loved Bernard. Hoping Melo grows on me to the point that I admire him half as much

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3/31/2011  12:26 PM
bernard wrote:I'm curious -- how do you find him reminiscent?

I see the same ability to score almost at will. Similar attitude -- almost ****iness -- once he gets it going. And the same lethal mid-range jumper. I guess, also, similar post-up ability from the SF position.

That said, the way they score/scored is/was so different. Bernard was much more about quickness and speed. And that ridiculously quick release. He was so smooth, you didn't know the shot was coming until it was in. And he had the most beautiful swish I've ever seen. Loved to watch the nets dance when he played.

Melo is much more about deception, strength, herky jerky moves. He's super quick too, but not in the same way -- not at all smooth. Also, not nearly the threat on the break, but a much greater threat on the offensive boards.

Neither were/are consistently strong on defense, but both showed/show flashes.

And to pile on, Orange, criticizing Bernard for his mediocre teams is just unfair. Basically by himself, he consistently took the Knicks to the 2nd round and once took the great Bird/McHale/Parish Celtics team to seven (can't remember which year). The next best player on those Knicks teams was Cartright -- not even close to an all star. Backcourt was Rory Sparrow (the dudu of the 1980s), Trent Tucker (hardnosed, but mediocre) and Darryl Walker (Jared Jefferies in pg form -- never met a layup he couldn't miss).

Anyway, I loved Bernard. Hoping Melo grows on me to the point that I admire him half as much

It was his midrange game that I found most similar. The feeling that this shot is going in everytime he shot. The one differnce is that Bernard had more post up game whereas Carmelo is more facing the basket. Melo plays with a smile on his face Bernard was more a scowl.
I was a big time Bernard fan too back in the day.

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3/31/2011  1:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2011  1:02 PM
Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

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3/31/2011  1:07 PM
More like Al Harrington II
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3/31/2011  2:40 PM
Nalod wrote:Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

Magic Johnson

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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3/31/2011  2:44 PM
VCoug wrote:
Nalod wrote:Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

Magic Johnson

Good one!

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3/31/2011  2:48 PM
VCoug wrote:
Nalod wrote:Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

Magic Johnson

LOL................but i never seen a great champion were a head band like Melo.

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3/31/2011  2:55 PM
Anji wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Nalod wrote:Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

Magic Johnson

LOL................but i never seen a great champion were a head band like Melo.

Wilt

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4/1/2011  9:53 PM
Bernard King averaged 52% FG for his career. He is light years ahead of Melo. He was very smooth too.
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4/1/2011  10:59 PM
knickstorrents wrote:Bernard King averaged 52% FG for his career. He is light years ahead of Melo. He was very smooth too.

By the time Melo is done, he will have had the better career.

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4/2/2011  10:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/2/2011  10:48 AM
Nalod wrote:Bernard simmered with a burning intensity. After a privileged college career with Earnie (the Bernie and Ernie show) Grunfield he had a rocky start with the NEts and Warriors but buckled down and manned up on his problems and created a great intensity.

His knee blow out might seem cruel but he really over came so much before to reach those heights.

Melo smiles and thats his thing. I never saw a great champion smile as he does. Maybe he becomes the first.

No one doubts his talent, just his intensity.

He brings it home he'll own the city for 50 years!

Bernard King II

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