[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

The last 40 games
Author Thread
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
3/30/2011  1:16 PM
Knicks were 8-12 for the 20 games prior to the trade and 8-12 since the trade. It had seemed to me like the post trade Knicks were doing a lot worse than the pre trade Knicks.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
AUTOADVERT
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
3/30/2011  1:29 PM
The Knicks before deadline were dragged down by the drama. The Knicks post deadline just suck.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
martin
Posts: 76227
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
3/30/2011  1:40 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Knicks were 8-12 for the 20 games prior to the trade and 8-12 since the trade. It had seemed to me like the post trade Knicks were doing a lot worse than the pre trade Knicks.

pre trade they were 29-26, why would you only look at a 20 game snap shot when a fuller, more accurate picture is out there?

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
CashMoney
Posts: 23145
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 1/15/2011
Member: #3374
USA
3/30/2011  4:04 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Knicks were 8-12 for the 20 games prior to the trade and 8-12 since the trade. It had seemed to me like the post trade Knicks were doing a lot worse than the pre trade Knicks.

pre trade they were 29-26, why would you only look at a 20 game snap shot when a fuller, more accurate picture is out there?

The Knicks started 3-8.
They then win 5 in a row, drop 1 game, then win another 8 games in a row - 13-1 run. (16-9)
After the 13-1 run they play .500 basketball at 6-6 from December 15th through January 11th. (22-15)
After the 6-6 run they go on to lose 6 games in a row from January 12th through January 22nd. (22-21)
They then go 6-5 up to the trade. (28-26)

The trade deadline was February 24th. Melo to the Knicks was being rumored as far back as October. It was a saga Anthony's going to the Nets, no he's not,
he wants to go to the Knicks, the Knicks aren't going to give up the farm, Lakers? Bulls? Mavs? blah blah blah up until February 6th when the Nugs, Knicks and Wolves started talking. Talks die, Anthon'y going to the Nets again, blah, blah, blah. Trade goes down on Feberuary 21st and Melo plays hist first game as a Knick against
the Bucks on February 23rd.

From February 6th up until the trade itself went down they were 3-2. For the month of February up until the trade they were 3-4. 10-12 for the month of Janaury through the trade. Throw in December's 8-5 and from December through the trade they were 18-17.

What is the accurate picture? Aside from a crappy start and a sick hot run we were a .500 team. 8-12 since the trade sucks but there's no way of
really knowing what games would have been won or lost had the previous team stayed together. It would be nothing more than speculation. We had holes before the trade and have holes after the trade. Looking at contracts, cap space (without knowing what the cap is going to be), what the Knicks are going to do with Billups, who we will sign to plug the holes and who were getting in the draft is all in the future. (Although fun to discuss.)

What am I getting at here? I think people (myself included) grew attached to Felton for his warrior mentaility and toughness, Mozgov's potential and the enjoyment of watching Gallo and Chandler get a little bit better each year. We've suffered through 9 years of crap and a team two games over .500 got us all excited about the Knicks again. 8-12 since the trade has many of you thinking that the team was much better than it really was when in reality we have a team that is currently slightly worse than the team we used to have, an inconsistant, streaky .500 team.

Blue & Orange 4 Life!
markvmc
Posts: 21995
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2008
Member: #1797

3/30/2011  4:53 PM
So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
3/30/2011  6:42 PM
markvmc wrote:So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?

All of this is really quite possibly a strange set of circumstances. Billups getting hurt and STAT feeling run down has had a huge effect on this team. This team wasn't playing that bad until Billups came back. In addition it hasn't helped that Turiaf keeps breaking down. It seems like all of this in addition to some chemistry issues have all come together to contribute to the losing streak. There's no way this team is REALLY as bad as they've looked in losing to the bad teams. Not when they actually have a winning record against good teams.

JrZyHuStLa
Posts: 25677
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/5/2007
Member: #1241

3/30/2011  7:11 PM
markvmc wrote:So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?

Yea, just proves that Gallinari, Chanlder, and Felton are just and always will be role players in the NBA. We gave up average guys and lost a little bit due to chemistry purposes.

CashMoney
Posts: 23145
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 1/15/2011
Member: #3374
USA
3/30/2011  7:43 PM
markvmc wrote:So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?

Will we be worse next year?

Blue & Orange 4 Life!
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
3/30/2011  9:00 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
markvmc wrote:So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?

Yea, just proves that Gallinari, Chanlder, and Felton are just and always will be role players in the NBA. We gave up average guys and lost a little bit due to chemistry purposes.

The loses are more base on chemistry then anything else, not to mention the 5 block shots we lose with the combination from will, gallo and mosgov..we don't sign JJ if that trade doesnt go down

ES
markvmc
Posts: 21995
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2008
Member: #1797

3/30/2011  9:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/30/2011  9:05 PM
CashMoney wrote:
markvmc wrote:So we gave up all of our tradeable assets to be only slightly worse than before?


Will we be worse next year?


I don't know. I sure hope not.

The last 40 games

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy