1) There's a chance the opposing player gets THREE foul shots instead of two (this is the obvious one). It can be player savvy (knowing the foul is coming and hoisting up the shot), a bad call from the ref, or a stupid blunder on the defender's part.

2) There's a small chance of facing the worst case scenario of a potential 4-point play, losing the game altogether with no chance of overtime.

3) If you foul, and the 1st FT goes IN, but the 2nd FT wildly caromes off the rim (intentional or not), there is a very real chance the rebound will wind up back in the opposing team's hands. Now, they can WIN the game on a 3-pt shot, or tie it up with a quick putback.

So why foul?

Great defense wins close games period. Relying on Vin Diesel's logic "it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning" will not get you very far.

Great defense wins close games period. Relying on Vin Diesel's logic "it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning" will not get you very far.

More SheenBury like quotes. If your not winning your losing!

islesfan wrote:Why fouling IS a good idea:

1) Jason Richardson's 3 that tied the game.

Except when he does make a 3 and is fouled at the same time, in which you would call for everyone's head, right?

martin wrote:

islesfan wrote:Why fouling IS a good idea:

1) Jason Richardson's 3 that tied the game.

Except when he does make a 3 and is fouled at the same time, in which you would call for everyone's head, right?

You have to be smart about the foul. If the guy is already going up for the 3 then obviously you don't touch him but there was plenty of time to foul before a player got into a shooting motion.

How often do you see a 4 point play? LJ's was so amazing in part because it NEVER happens in that situation.

martin wrote:

islesfan wrote:Why fouling IS a good idea:

1) Jason Richardson's 3 that tied the game.

Except when he does make a 3 and is fouled at the same time, in which you would call for everyone's head, right?

Papabear Says

Look how many bad calls were mane on us. It all wash out in the end.

As far as fouling, I think you have to foul in that situation.

islesfan wrote:

martin wrote:

islesfan wrote:Why fouling IS a good idea:

1) Jason Richardson's 3 that tied the game.

Except when he does make a 3 and is fouled at the same time, in which you would call for everyone's head, right?

You have to be smart about the foul. If the guy is already going up for the 3 then obviously you don't touch him but there was plenty of time to foul before a player got into a shooting motion.

How often do you see a 4 point play? LJ's was so amazing in part because it NEVER happens in that situation.

All that said, I've seen lot's of late 3 pointers to tie games. Trying to remember a time I've seen the intentional foul strategy blow up.

BigRedDog wrote:

TheGame wrote:After looking at the play again, I think Jeffries did the right thing not putting his hands up. He was two steps away from Richardson, and Richardson rose up for the shot while Jeffries was still changing directions. If Jeffries puts his hands up, he is far more likely to hit Richardson's elbow and risk getting a foul than he is to affect Richardson's shot. Jeffries mistake was not playing Richardson closer from the start, but he made the right decision not putting his hands up after Richardson was already in the shooting motion.

As far as fouling, I think you have to foul in that situation.

You are kidding me, right??? This had to be one of the WORST defensive plays ever. Jeffries is SO over-rated defensively. On that play all he had to do was defend the 3 pter. If you look at the play Jeffries starts going back to defend the drive and then stops and watches the play. NO defense at all. Even the announcers were saying he had to at least put up his hands. Man does Jeffries SUCK.

Hahn's take?:

Jared Jeffries got caught off-balance on Jason Richardson's move and thought it was better to hold himself back rather than risk fouling Richardson by putting a hand up on the shot, which, of course, he hit with 5.7 seconds left to tie.