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AnubisADL
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3/27/2011  5:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/27/2011  5:23 PM
It's rumored that the Raptors are open to moving center Andrea Bargnani, who has been anything but an impact player since entering the league in 2007 as the No. 1 overall pick.

They reportedly want to build the team around rookie big-man Ed Davis and second-year guard DeMar DeRozan.

Source: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/212590/Rumor_Raptors_Open_to_Moving_Bargnani

I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

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3/27/2011  5:46 PM
We need players who can also play defense (especially centers). No more system guys (unless D'Antoni stays). He doesn't even rebound well.
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3/27/2011  5:52 PM
He's got 4 years 43 million left. THats alot of moola for a bench player. And lets be real, he'd start, he's putting up 22 ppg and he's 7 feet. He's Brook Lopez's other twin. He does not rebound or block. but 20 ppg is alot of points, he's a skilled scorer. Soft tho, like the stereotypical Euro big.

Only way to acquire him is if we pick up Chauncey's option and trade him for Barginini and Barbosa.

I don't want a big soft Euro when Gallo proved to be anything but that, (at a different position) but he's
a real 7 footer and our needs from him are pretty tame. MDA would probably reignite his man crush for this guy, PLUS he's Italian. He's probably in Walsh's ear already.

I'd rather do nothing than make this move, although this would obviously make us better and give us another option at the 1 as well. He fits the need for 7 feet,and he can score, but we need rebounds and defense. We CANNOT add another player that is not a good defender.

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3/27/2011  5:53 PM
He is 7 ft tall with a jumper. We could use the height.

I think he'd beast against other teams 2nd unit. We'd probably have to eat Jose Calderons contract though.

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3/27/2011  5:58 PM
Wow. A team with no defense is going to pick up a defensively challenged center and a defensively challenged PG. Calderons a solid PG, so he should keep the offense humming and AB can shoot, so he should keep defenses honest, but man, we might have the worst defensive team in the past 20 years with that group. I say "Just say no"
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3/27/2011  6:04 PM
Killa4luv wrote:He's got 4 years 43 million left. THats alot of moola for a bench player. And lets be real, he'd start, he's putting up 22 ppg and he's 7 feet. He's Brook Lopez's other twin. He does not rebound or block. but 20 ppg is alot of points, he's a skilled scorer. Soft tho, like the stereotypical Euro big.

Only way to acquire him is if we pick up Chauncey's option and trade him for Barginini and Barbosa.

I don't want a big soft Euro when Gallo proved to be anything but that, (at a different position) but he's
a real 7 footer and our needs from him are pretty tame. MDA would probably reignite his man crush for this guy, PLUS he's Italian. He's probably in Walsh's ear already.

I'd rather do nothing than make this move, although this would obviously make us better and give us another option at the 1 as well. He fits the need for 7 feet,and he can score, but we need rebounds and defense. We CANNOT add another player that is not a good defender.

D'Antoni is as good as gone.

Bargnani is a 3rd wheel at best but he is valuable too us because he is 7ft tall, skilled, and has a jumper.

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3/27/2011  6:12 PM
TheGame wrote:Wow. A team with no defense is going to pick up a defensively challenged center and a defensively challenged PG. Calderons a solid PG, so he should keep the offense humming and AB can shoot, so he should keep defenses honest, but man, we might have the worst defensive team in the past 20 years with that group. I say "Just say no"

I mean how do you expect us to get upgrades at PG and C?

7ft Bargnani is an upgrade over anyone we currently have at C. Calderon sucks but he is better than anyone we currently have.

If Thibodeau can turn the Bulls into a defensive team then there is hope for us.

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3/27/2011  6:42 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TheGame wrote:Wow. A team with no defense is going to pick up a defensively challenged center and a defensively challenged PG. Calderons a solid PG, so he should keep the offense humming and AB can shoot, so he should keep defenses honest, but man, we might have the worst defensive team in the past 20 years with that group. I say "Just say no"

I mean how do you expect us to get upgrades at PG and C?

7ft Bargnani is an upgrade over anyone we currently have at C. Calderon sucks but he is better than anyone we currently have.

If Thibodeau can turn the Bulls into a defensive team then there is hope for us.

My point is that you cannot turn around a bad defensive team by adding more bad defensive players. MDA would love it because we would have no choice by to play SSOL basketball b/c we certainly are not going to stop anyone from scoring. It feels like one of IT's "it is just so crazy, it just might work" type of deals.

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3/27/2011  6:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/27/2011  6:49 PM
TheGame wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TheGame wrote:Wow. A team with no defense is going to pick up a defensively challenged center and a defensively challenged PG. Calderons a solid PG, so he should keep the offense humming and AB can shoot, so he should keep defenses honest, but man, we might have the worst defensive team in the past 20 years with that group. I say "Just say no"

I mean how do you expect us to get upgrades at PG and C?

7ft Bargnani is an upgrade over anyone we currently have at C. Calderon sucks but he is better than anyone we currently have.

If Thibodeau can turn the Bulls into a defensive team then there is hope for us.

My point is that you cannot turn around a bad defensive team by adding more bad defensive players. MDA would love it because we would have no choice by to play SSOL basketball b/c we certainly are not going to stop anyone from scoring. It feels like one of IT's "it is just so crazy, it just might work" type of deals.

I understand what your saying. My thing is Amare and Melo are going to have to play some defense eventually if we are going to make a championship run. The only way the Knicks are going to be able have them play both ends is if we get players who can put the ball in the basket.

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3/27/2011  6:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/27/2011  6:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

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3/27/2011  6:57 PM
Bargnani would have been perfect with the previous version of the team. This team needs a rugged rebounder at center.
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3/27/2011  7:50 PM
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

He is guaranteed 50 million on a lottery team. We'd probably have to eat Calderon's deal as well.

This isn't my ideal off-season acquisition but we could do worse.

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3/27/2011  8:01 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

He is guaranteed 50 million on a lottery team. We'd probably have to eat Calderon's deal as well.

This isn't my ideal off-season acquisition but we could do worse.

How?

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3/27/2011  8:08 PM
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3/27/2011  8:31 PM
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

He is guaranteed 50 million on a lottery team. We'd probably have to eat Calderon's deal as well.

This isn't my ideal off-season acquisition but we could do worse.

How?

Billups 14 million dollar expiring contract.

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3/27/2011  8:33 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis studied at the Isiah Thomas School of Management.

Im not trying to leave our future to the likes of Eddy Curry, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jefferies, and Jerome James.

We got Amare and Melo already. They need help. Defensive specialists are only going to put a higher burden on them to produce buckets.

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3/27/2011  8:36 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

He is guaranteed 50 million on a lottery team. We'd probably have to eat Calderon's deal as well.

This isn't my ideal off-season acquisition but we could do worse.

How?

Billups 14 million dollar expiring contract.

Not only do the Raptors say no that move would be suicidal.

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3/27/2011  8:43 PM
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Juice wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I definitely wouldnt mind getting this guy. I wouldnt start him but he'd be useful off the bench.

You mean acquire a player many felt Gallo would be better than? He doesn't rebound and barely blocks any shots to be as tall as he is. He's on a 5yr $50mil deal. And how do you go about doing this?

He is guaranteed 50 million on a lottery team. We'd probably have to eat Calderon's deal as well.

This isn't my ideal off-season acquisition but we could do worse.

How?

Billups 14 million dollar expiring contract.

Not only do the Raptors say no that move would be suicidal.

Obviously we'd have to throw in our pick. No one wants Calderon and the 30 million left on his deal.

Not saying the deal is likely but it's not impossible.

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3/27/2011  9:05 PM
The only way a Knick GM makes a deal like this is if they were asleep the last 10 years..
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3/28/2011  4:01 AM
If Mike'D stays then this could be a good pick up if it doesn't cost more than an expiring and some picks. Pick Moon or Howard or Deshawn to play the 2 guard with Tony.
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