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3/26/2011  1:41 AM
It seems like Chauncey Billups spoke for his whole team when he talked about the system he is still trying to learn.

"I'm familiar with the sets and things like that," Billups said. "But it is a different system, more different than I've played in any other system. It takes time to get to know it and the ins-and-outs.

"I've always pretty much been a fast learner," he said. "But this one, it is more difficult than any other system I've played in."

Jennings said he still holds a grudge against the Knicks for passing him up in last year's NBA Draft.

"[I] never forget it," he said. "But it's OK, though."

The last stretch of success we had was with this team, but under different circumstances. Back then, D'Antoni said he was tweaking his system in order to use the best abilities of his new stars. We played solid games even for a team that had just a couple of practices together.

Since then, it seems the focus has been on learning the system on the fly while using the last two months as a training camp. Seems like that strategy has backfired and now we may have to pray we can win enough to still make the playoffs. D'Antoni seems focused on making the playoffs any way they can, even if they end up with a losing season yet again.

We still aren't playing the system, but it seems its because of mistakes instead of a tweak to it. Was this the right choice, especially since we could've adopted the other style and go for it in the playoffs? Those games we played, while only a few, looked as close to playoff basketball as anything we've had under D'Antoni. Maybe it was just a fluke, but that play looked better for our positioning than this "learn a really difficult system on the fly".

And this makes me wonder: is this system so good and worth it that we can give ourselves the luxury of a really long period of adjustment? Considering the pre-trade Knicks, they didn't start playing the system the right way until like a month or two after training camp. And even then, we regressed at some point. Now, when D'Antoni's offense is working on all cylinders, its a thing of beauty. But it has only run that way for a few games in the season. Even then, things like defense, rebounding and the use of the big man have been issues with D'Antoni.

***Whole article here: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/billups_blames_his_porous_play_for_afF9dFOZWo1ew29A9SffDN#ixzz1HgFO8l9v

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3/26/2011  2:58 AM
They were blasting through the league, and then...LaLa, ESPN, and Melo got their stupid obese fingers involved.

And psychic entropy ensued. The Knicks lost their resolve. A team was destroyed.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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3/26/2011  3:26 AM
Its simple, it has nothing to do with melo. This is a pg oriented, pick and roll system that requires a great 2 man game. Chauncey runs the pick and roll worse than Toney, which is REALLY bad. I've seen Shawne williams execute better once or twice. Felton at one point was killing it. There is just very poor ball movement when amare or melo is isolating. Melo and Amare should be playing off each other. Melo should come around an amre screen, see if he has the shot, if not dump to amare and cut through. Shit like that. Instead Amare goes on one one while melo watches and vice versa usually.
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3/26/2011  9:55 AM
Being two games over .500 and having the same problems we have right now except for the consistent losing isn't exactly blasting through the league. We were having problems with our play too, only that they weren't magnified like they are now.
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3/26/2011  10:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/26/2011  10:01 AM
"THIS is the business we have chosen!"

orangeblobman - your biased obsession with Carmelo Anthony conveniently overlooks the fragile nature of any team sport.

Franchises like the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers are not a revolving door of management or players. They are not influenced by the media. As a result there is something essential - continuity.

Hear me now and believe me later. The Knicks have a roster of guys who have been together for no longer than six months. The longest tenured New York Knick is Toney Douglas. THAT is a formula for confusion and mistrust.

Carmelo ain't the problem. The Knicks are missing the most essential positions on the floor and Shelden Williams should never see the light of day.

Blame whoever gave Donnie Walsh the order.

once a knick always a knick
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3/26/2011  10:55 AM
You rarely see anyone cutting to the rim. Its painful to watch everyone stand around and wait to see what the ball carrier does. Lots of things I see that have nothing to do with the system. Poor shot selection, defensive apathy, very few picks being set, poor ball movement. You can install any offense you like, if the team can't play as a team it doesn't matter.

SSOL might not be the ideal way to go with this new roster anyway.

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3/26/2011  11:06 AM
tj23 wrote:Its simple, it has nothing to do with melo. This is a pg oriented, pick and roll system that requires a great 2 man game. Chauncey runs the pick and roll worse than Toney, which is REALLY bad. I've seen Shawne williams execute better once or twice. Felton at one point was killing it. There is just very poor ball movement when amare or melo is isolating. Melo and Amare should be playing off each other. Melo should come around an amre screen, see if he has the shot, if not dump to amare and cut through. Shit like that. Instead Amare goes on one one while melo watches and vice versa usually.

Amare and Melo should be playing off each other and I 100% agree.

Even have those two running the pick and rolls; Melo is a better creater then he's given credit for. Having them on the same side of the floor doesn't work unless they're in motion, because they only set-up in the high post. Doubling either of them is a half-step recovery for any defense with trash spacing.

Hell, Amare coming off screens at the elbow has been a money play all year. Pick and pops...

I'd be tempted to let the entire offense run through Melo at this point, with Douglas playing off the ball.

The crappy thing is, this teams defense will probably never be good enough to have offensive droughts like this. Dudes need to get it together and fast.

"If you ain't first, you're last" - Ricky Bobby
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